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Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by LastTrain on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:25AM (#49684369)
If the they didn't pitch the massive surveillance and data capturing aspects they wouldn’t have got the funding.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:34AM (#49684455)
Blantantly making stuff up is a bad look, they were founded as an HOA (private neighborhood) security service.

>Flock’s camera and accompanying software is geared towards private neighborhoods and neighborhood associations looking to decrease petty crime.[1]

[1]https://www.hypepotamus.com/flock-safety-funding-round-growt...

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by thejazzman on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:40AM (#49684510)
YC won’t invest unless you convince them you’re potentially $100B company.

The scope is always the largest possible audience…

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:56AM (#49684691)
Well until there is solid evidence of them wanting a government mass surveillance apperatus, I'm not gonna grab a pitchfork.

I've been on the internet too long to give credence to people who resort to conspiracy when data doesn't fit their desired narrative.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by tekla on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:05AM (#49684808)
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:10AM (#49684869)
From 2017 please...

Unfortunately Google seems to have removed the ability to search only in specific time frames, but the original pitch I'm sure does exist out there.

There are over 350K HOAs in the US, so scaling to just HOAs would still be an undertaking

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by orangeberrytea on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:53AM (#49684665)
You’re not being honest.

You don’t mention that they were reading license plates with cameras from Day 1 already tracking people - that was the technology and still is

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:56AM (#49684701)
I'm pretty sure HOAs would honestly want that, and I don't think the anyone would care about pocket networks in private communities.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by HNhelpsFlock on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:00AM (#49684737)
He’s right. You’re wrong or lying on purpose. Fact check it. They have been reading license plates from the beginning. That’s what it is.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:06AM (#49684816)
Let me rephrase my comment you are replying to for clarity

"Yes, HOAs would honestly want plate readers.."

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by orangeberrytea on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:16AM (#49684942)
You went from that user “blatantly making up” that they surveil and collect data to “well because HOAs want that”

Bad look

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:30AM (#49685102)
I don't think private HOA networks count as "mass surveillance".
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by throwaway173738 on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:53AM (#49685372)
An HOA has a lot more leeway to do whatever it wants than other local governments. They get to act as government sometimes, then as a corporation sometimes, and then as a group of amateur lawyers sometimes. They can both pass laws and try you for violating them without recourse. And IME only the most toxic people stay on the board for very long.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @12:05PM (#49685512)
Ok cool.

Wake me up when HOAs are nationally detaining people.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by blueoranges on Sunday September 13, 2026 @12:00PM (#49685462)
Nobody is saying HOA except you.

It started as license plate readers and expanded to include identifying people by clothing, body type, etc. storing it in a database that communicates with surveillance networks in other cities.

That is literally mass surveillance.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @12:07PM (#49685540)
>Nobody is saying HOA except you.

Me and the founding mission of flock when it got seed funding from HN in 2017.

Flocks original goal was private security for HOAs, nothing to do with police/government. Hence this whole debacle here in the comments.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by LastTrain on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:39AM (#49685202)
I’m not making anything up any more than you are. Neither of us was there. My point: you don’t get YC funding unless you have a disruptive business idea. “Cameras, but to a niche HOA market” is not that.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @12:00PM (#49685461)
The 350K HOAs are hardly "niche".
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by dkarl on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:39AM (#49684500)
Same thing on a smaller scale, and they never would have got venture capital funding if they didn't have an upward trajectory from HOAs. There's only one path upward from private HOA surveillance, and that's government surveillance.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by b112 on Sunday September 13, 2026 @07:30PM (#49689857)
Ny that reasoning, every single company will run out of gpod scale reasons, and therefore scale for bad reasons, so you're evil to fund anyone ever.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by tekla on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:53AM (#49684662)
Doesn't seem to be what their YC Pitch was

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety

> From the moment we started Flock Safety, we had an incredibly clear, boldly audacious mission ... We provide a life-or-death product, a mission-critical system for cities

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:08AM (#49684842)
Links from 2017 would be the best way to see what YC invested in, no?