Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by achierius on Sunday July 26, 2026 @10:53PM
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For if someone steals the phone?
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by ww520 on Sunday July 26, 2026 @10:22PM
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As a speech.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by IncreasePosts on Sunday July 26, 2026 @10:25PM
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"it would be funny if the border police typed it in to my phone"
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by nkrisc on Monday July 27, 2026 @03:45AM
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I think you should read the other reply about not saying anything at all.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by Xirdus on Monday July 27, 2026 @11:48AM
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Not saying anything at all is one of the worst things you can do when questioned by law enforcement in the US (though "it would be funny" is a close second). The right way to remain silent is to loudly proclaim "I am exercising my right to remain silent."
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by stickfigure on Monday July 27, 2026 @01:00AM
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> what other possible explanation is there for someone putting a PIN visible on their phone that wipes it while crossing a border?
Two obvious answers:
1. It's for the general case of lost/stolen phone.
2. It's for the owner. I can't remember numbers I don't type in, might as well keep it visible on the device.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by reenorap on Monday July 27, 2026 @01:43AM
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There’s no way to prove intent if you keep your mouth shut and don’t answer anything.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by victorbjorklund on Monday July 27, 2026 @03:57AM
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Yea, that’s not how it works in practice. If they catch you standing over a dead body holding the murder weapon. Then you can’t just say they can’t prove intent if you keep your mouth shut.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by weli on Monday July 27, 2026 @06:13AM
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Yea but that's where "reasonable suspicion" comes in a court of law. If you are standing next to a dead body, with a bloody knife in your hand.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by account42 on Tuesday July 28, 2026 @10:29AM
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And doing anything non-standard with your phone is going to shift the reasonable suspicion away from favoring you unless you can explain yourself.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by nkrisc on Monday July 27, 2026 @06:40AM
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That’s good advice to not talk, but it won’t necessarily save you.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by LadyCailin on Monday July 27, 2026 @02:12AM
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They might be able to convict on that, but that sets a dangerous precedent imo, which is that doing anything preemptively to prevent searches is conviction worthy, including the preparation the OP suggested.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by 8note on Monday July 27, 2026 @02:13AM
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if the cops do that, they're breaking the law with that search already
theyll have a hard time showing that you intended for the government to break the law. first the government would have to admit breaking the law
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by nkrisc on Monday July 27, 2026 @03:46AM
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Unfortunately I think they have pretty wide latitude to perform searches at border crossings.
Re:US citizen charged after GrapheneOS phone wipes during ai...
by unrealhoang on Monday July 27, 2026 @06:11AM
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claim your password to be some derivative of the duress PIN, for example: 1234 is password reminder for 2444 (one 2 three 4), the device is erased anyway.
Intent matters. It might be hard to prove, but it matters.
It may not even be that hard; what other possible explanation is there for someone putting a PIN visible on their phone that wipes it while crossing a border?