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Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by CGMthrowaway on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:07PM (#48823766)
Don't rule out another Cash for Clunkers. The 2009 program destroyed 1 in 300 cars on the road. The next one could be bigger. Also, 3 in 4 cars on the road today are now in states requiring emissions tests for your annual registration, which can pose a significant (and growing, as standards improve) obstacle for older cars.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by pwg on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:27PM (#48824086)
> which can pose a significant (and growing, as standards improve) obstacle for older cars.

At least for my state, the emissions test a car has to pass is whatever it was supposed to have passed when it was fresh off the assembly line. So older cars do not have to pass stricter newer standards that newer cars have to pass.

Now, granted, wear and tear will eventually result in an older car not passing its original standard, but at least the standard it has to pass is fixed, rather than a moving target.

Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by darrylb42 on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:52PM (#48824410)
BC stopped emission testing 10ish years ago because new cars almost never fail so there wasn't much value continuing the program.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Scoundreller on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @07:09PM (#48825247)
Dunno why these programs never took a sampling approach and data-mined which makes/models/years to target the next year/cycle.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by projektfu on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @07:24PM (#48825391)
The only way to have affordable, ubiquitous testing stations is to make it universal. At least, in states that do not also require safety inspections. If only 10,000 cars were tested each year, nobody would buy the equipment.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Scoundreller on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @08:08PM (#48825744)
Mass (unnecessary) testing is only more affordable if you value people’s time at $0
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by projektfu on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @08:47PM (#48826035)
It's not going to keep old cars on the road if you mandate expensive tests to do so, when new cars don't need the tests.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by consensus1 on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @03:38AM (#48828792)
Which is precisely what government bureaucrats value your time in complying with their arbitrary bullshit at.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @09:23PM (#48826298)
I don't see what the issue is. Pay the people running the test station more per test but less overall.

Extremely rough example numbers: Instead of testing a million cars for $20 each, 10k cars are tested for $200 each. 85% of testing stations shut down, and the rest downsize if they can, but there's still plenty of them around. The total cost of testing drops 90%. The state taxes every car $2 to pay for the randomized testing; being selected means you lose an hour driving to the station, not that you lose $200 of your own money.

Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by frollogaston on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:09PM (#48823816)
The article is about the EU, but since you brought up US emissions testing... I live in California, only drive mid 2000s cars, and haven't noticed any of the restrictions getting tighter. It's the usual check every 2 years at the same place. Seems my cars are grandfathered into old emissions standards too.

And yeah I enjoy having my car shut the hell up and let me drive.

Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by hnav on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:29PM (#48824116)
For mid 2000s, the car is self monitoring so an emissions check is just a visual once over to ensure no physical tampering and a computer readout of emission readiness monitors + firmware checksum for digital tampering.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by frollogaston on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @09:21PM (#48826287)
Right, and even the monitors can differ. If a car wasn't made with a certain monitor, that's one less check it has to pass. One of my cars had issues with passing SAI, the other has N/A for that.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Spooky23 on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:30PM (#48824121)
I’m imagine that’s coming soon. Most new large cars are getting turbos now to meet federal and state standards, the turbos wear faster and I’m sure there will be a desire to validate them.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Scoundreller on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @07:12PM (#48825277)
Now that my vehicle is approaching 20 years old, I’m so so so happy it has more interior comfort upgrades rather than mechanical ones like 4wd or a turbo.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by trinix912 on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:25PM (#48824044)
There are some German cities (Munich) where you can’t enter the city center with a diesel car that doesn’t meet the EURO 4 standards. EURO 4 is a low bar but there’s really nothing stopping them from eventually implementing it more widely and upping the requirement to EURO 5, 6, etc.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by rendx on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:41PM (#48824277)
I've been driving a 1996 VW diesel van in Germany including Munich, and nowhere anyone ever actually cared about the lack of the sticker. And now, at 30 years of age, it turned "oldtimer", so it is officially exempted.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by tiagod on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @07:01PM (#48825162)
Same in Lisbon, nobody cares.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by reaperducer on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:27PM (#48824077)
I live in California, only drive mid 2000s cars, and haven't noticed any of the restrictions getting tighter.

Last year, or the year before, Texas dropped emissions testing, except in its most populous counties.

Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Dries007 on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:08PM (#48823799)
The emissions tests only test to the level that the car was first registered (or produced) doesn't it?
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by hnav on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:28PM (#48824094)
Yup, a bigger issue for old cars trying to pass emissions is that with prices of precious metals, a worn out catalytic converter (diagnostic code P0420 ) means that most of them are mechanically totaled in California, New York, Colorado since they require either OEM or CARB approved replacements.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Scoundreller on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @07:16PM (#48825322)
Must be close to actually worthless if they’re not shipping them out-of-state, no?
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by hnav on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @08:15PM (#48825793)
Yeah, if it's worth more than 4k registered, it'll either be fixed or shipped. California gives you $1200 to junk it, people will come pick it up for $1500 and a lot of times you'll see it pop back up in state because they illegally resuscitated it with a defouler, a used/EPA cat and put it back into circulation.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by cucumber3732842 on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @06:05AM (#48829972)
>because they illegally resuscitated it with a defouler, a used/EPA cat and put it back into circulation.

If it passes the sniffer it passes the sniffer, other than the parties who are whiny because they stood to make a buck who cares?

Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Ar-Curunir on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @06:02PM (#48824568)
That’s a good thing, yes?
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by projektfu on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @07:25PM (#48825404)
It does promote some catalytic converter theft.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Gigachad on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @06:58PM (#48825140)
It's good thing if you like not having cancer.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by levocardia on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:23PM (#48824005)
Cash for Clunkers was not mandatory
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by ARandomerDude on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:27PM (#48824082)
Not being mandatory and not having an effect are different claims.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by Exoristos on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @05:43PM (#48824313)
If you keep a population poor enough, almost anything can be functionally mandatory.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by frollogaston on Tuesday July 07, 2026 @09:28PM (#48826338)
Wasn't mandatory to sell your car. Was mandatory to pay taxes that were partially used on those buyouts. You also couldn't opt out of used car prices being higher because of it.
Re:Every new car sold in the European Union must include a d... by nizbit on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @05:18AM (#48829573)
Nah you pay a guy and you get your inspection sticker. This has always been the way.