Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by vlovich123 on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @04:06AM
(#48743609)
The rust blog post covers this. Subtree performance is terrible on larger repos and they didn’t land something that would fix it on medium sized ones. That’s why they went with a better maintained solution that scales.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by sluongng on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @01:09PM
(#48750071)
Yeah I vibe coded https://github.com/sluongng/capyfun during a hackathon recently to add a generative transformation layer on top of the traditional imperative transformations.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by schrodinger on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:31PM
(#48741388)
To those who have used it: is it handy for situations where you have multiple repos that want to share a little code, but it's not worth the trouble of extracting a library, referencing it, publishing versioned releases, updating dependent repos, etc?
And instead just "sync" a code folder from one main repo (perhaps containing common domain models) to other repos?
Basically the Go philosophy that a little bit of copying is better than a lot of dependency?
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by ASinclair on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @10:03PM
(#48741561)
It’s largely used for syncing external open source projects with the monorepo. Policy is to require source code imports over built artifacts. Though you can get exceptions.
Some projects are also developed in the monorepo and exported via Copybara.
My team also uses it to version Starlark rule sets internally.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by paulddraper on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @10:58PM
(#48741790)
Source code imports versus artifacts really neither here nor there. Go is source code imports too.
The key part for Copybara is that Google will make changes to the OSS projects from within the internal repo and everyone else will make changes to the OSS projects.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by baliex on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @06:26AM
(#48744656)
Well kind of, or you just end up copying the poisoned version directly into your repo rather than having it as a dependency. Same outcome.
I suppose if you're running some security analysis on code in your own repo, the fact that you've copied the code in means that it'll run on your third party dependencies too, since they no longer appear to be third party.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by xyzzy_plugh on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @10:04PM
(#48741565)
It's for when you have a monorepo internally, and want to publish parts of it as open source to the world. They still need to live in the monorepo, so this is the solution.
Having a public repo as a dependency for your private corporate repo is a pain in the ass development-wise. Having a tree of such dependencies is a migraine.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by yaskou on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @02:46AM
(#48743100)
Yeah, that's the fun part. Probably built first for exporting monolith slices to OSS, but the reverse direction is more interesting to me. Tracking an upstream or keeping a private fork in sync. That's what makes Copybara useful well beyond the monorepo use case.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by klodolph on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @12:21AM
(#48742208)
Copybara can do that but I think it will be annoying and tedious to use it that way. More annoying than the problem of extracting a library or shoving some files in a separate repo.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by veyh on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @02:40AM
(#48743075)
If you're exporting more than a few commits, I suggest using local repos (/path/to/.git) for both the source and destination. Otherwise it'll be quite slow.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by alok-g on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @11:08PM
(#48741843)
Interesting. Anyone knows how this compares to using git submodules and subtrees?
I had used those to create separate repo for website artifacts while the same also remain plugged into the webapp dev repo. (Both sides remain modifiable and changes mergeable to the
other side.)
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by klodolph on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @12:17AM
(#48742190)
Been using this for a while, mostly when I make a tool as part of a larger project and the tool is big enough to deserve its own release.
It’s powerful enough to do a whole bidirectional shipping operation where you export and import code—no thanks, that’s a hassle. I use it mostly for a simple fire and forget export, where I take a folder out of its original repo and preserve the history. Then I just move development to the new repo. The new project layout can be completely different, but Git blame works and I’m happy with that.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by rnagulapalle on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @12:45AM
(#48742338)
The one-way pattern is actually how Google uses it internally too, syncing outward from their monorepo to GitHub. Bidirectional gets messy because transforms (path remapping, file exclusions, header stripping) are easy to apply in one direction but can't always be cleanly inverted. When both sides have diverged, Copybara's baseline tracking starts producing confusing results because semantically equivalent commits generate different SHAs after transform.
One thing worth knowing: history "preservation" is actually cherry-picks with rewritten commits, not a true transplant. Git blame works because the file content and authorship carry over, but the SHAs are new. Copybara embeds the original SHA in a commit message trailer (GitOrigin-RevId), which is useful to know if you ever need to correlate commits across repos after the fact.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by dmoy on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @03:49AM
(#48743508)
There are three ways I've seen it done, though it being Google I assume there's more
One is to try the bidirectional support with copybara itself, thought that usually requires more effort than it's worth.
Another is to have the external repo be the source of truth and then always import into google3. Kythe used to do this at least, though I gather it's not done that way anymore.
The third is to just replicate the patches externally (which is pretty easy to automate or semi-automate on a case by case basis), and verify that a re-copybara-export keeps zero diff
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by eddd-ddde on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @09:39AM
(#48746599)
The "supported" workflow is you keep your source of truth in either the monorepo or the external repo. Then you export the current state of the source of truth to keep the mirrors up to date. Then, since we can assume the mirrors are up to date, the inverse transform can be applied to import change requests from the mirrors.
It works well when the assumptions hold, that there isn't large divergence on either side. It can actually be largely automated.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by willchen on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @01:47AM
(#48742747)
i used this tool when i was at google, extremely helpful in open-sourcing things from google3 to github.
still, i'm glad to just directly develop on github now :)
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by the_dude_ on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @02:56AM
(#48743167)
If the only need you need is sync repos without exclusions or transformations I wouldn't bother, it could work for you until it doesn't when they archive it or kill it like kaniko or so many other google products/tools.
Gitlab has really simple way to mirror from Gitlab to Github or other git vendors/servers
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by dmoy on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @03:45AM
(#48743491)
yea copybara is really for doing transforms in one or both directions.
E.g. translating from external bzl to internal blaze BUILD compatibility, changing between external imports and internal third_party style imports, etc etc.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by theodpHN on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @02:58AM
(#48743176)
52+ years of progress... :-)
July, 2026: Google copybara allows one to move code between two prod repositories
March, 1974: IBM COPY allows one to move code between two prod partitioned data sets: OS/MVT and 0S/VS2 TSO Data Utilities COPY, FORMAT, LIST, MERGE User's Guide and Reference https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/downloads/8987
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by theolivenbaum on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @04:15AM
(#48743678)
Wild times when one can go from a HN post about an interesting open source code to a port to a new language in a matter of hours (wip, but almost complete: https://github.com/theolivenbaum/copybara)
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by Gehinnn on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @04:23AM
(#48743744)
Does this tool allow changes in both repositories? (with a 3 way merge strategy)
git subtrees come close, but I have a use case where I need transformations/file filters on top.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by nbobko on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @05:33AM
(#48744312)
At my previous company we tried to use this tool to sync parts of the code between two different git repos. The tool turned out being unacceptably slow.
Handwritten bash scripts using git-replace and git-filter-repo [1] did a much better job
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by krick on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @06:04AM
(#48744499)
I get it that there are use-cases for this, but it's surprising to learn that apparently use-case space is big enough for it to invite a creation of a dedicated tool. I mean that the fact you need it is a bit shameful on its own, no? Usually, when you need to reuse the code between the projects, you try to extract it as a separate library / module. The copying between repos is just a lazy solution, because "ain't nobody got time for that".
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by zem on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @06:22AM
(#48744621)
it's useful for cases like google's, where they mirror internal code to github or vice versa, and the two versions need a bit of mechanical work every time they are synced (e.g. slightly different tree layout conventions, internal code or docs that you don't want to include in the github version, stripping of references to other internal stuff like bug IDs from comments, etc).
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by krick on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @10:31AM
(#48747470)
But if you are gonna extract and open-source the whole self-contained tool, why not just do that and then install in whatever project like you install any other 3rd party tool?
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by zem on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @01:40PM
(#48750518)
in order to use third party code within google it needs to be copied into the monorepo, and projects that depend on it need to import the internal version. this requires at the very least setting it up to build via blaze (google's internal build system, open sourced as bazel), and frequently adjusting its directory layout to fit the monorepo conventions.
this "mirror and use the local copy" dance is exactly how "any other third party tool" works within google.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by dijit on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @06:45AM
(#48744775)
Ha! This post comes right at the time where I finally got around to open sourcing the patches I made to provide Perforce support which I use at my gamedev studio[0].
I find it kind of funny that perforce support was not included, only git support seems to exist in any meaningful way: despite the primary use of copybara being for releasing internal google code (which lives in Piper, a fork of Perforce).
I actually got a bit worried when looking at the git history before making the PR, because there's a lot of Gerrit Change-ID markers (meaning there's some gerrit code review system somewhere which I'm not privvy too) and I might have submitted a PR which never gets upstreamed..
I feel the same pang of pain from the lack of a perforce version of Gerrit/Rietveld.. but, you can't ask for everything!
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by lima on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @06:59AM
(#48744866)
Don't worry, they accept PRs on that repo. They just merge them internally and then re-export them.
There are some variations, but this is generally the same with all open source projects which live in their internal monorepo, such as gVisor or Bazel.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by bruckie on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @08:56AM
(#48745956)
One reason there's no Perforce support for Gerrit/Rietveld is that Google doesn't use those tools for changes to code that's stored in Piper. Instead, they use Critique:
I haven't found anything external that's as good, and am astounded that GitHub's incredibly lackluster PR review tooling is acceptable to most people. If anyone is aware of something in Critique's league, I'd love to hear about it!
Edit: I tried to do a reasonably thorough survey a couple of years ago when I left Google and https://codeapprove.com/ was the closest I found, but there were still many gaps.
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by habosa on Thursday July 02, 2026 @07:21AM
(#48759667)
Codeapprove creator here! I made it to fill the exact gap you're lamenting, and I still think that gap exists. For a while it seemed like Graphite was going to be the answer but over time they ended up focusing more on the AI angle and less on human review tooling and now it feels just as cluttered and slow as anything else.
I home some other Xoogler comes along and delivers a Critique build for 2026, I still think there's a need!
Re:Google copybara: moving code between repositories
by cole_ on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @11:01AM
(#48747971)
We used Copybara to setup a hub-and-spoke model at Dagster where public-facing repos can live within our larger internal monorepo, and while it worked we had to do a lot of hacky things.
My shell script definitely wasn't google scale tho!
For example altering commit author emails during sync
https://josh-project.dev
The blog post from the Rust people:
https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2026/06/04/how-josh-h...
Meta used to have an open source tool called fbshipit. But according to its open source repo they no longer use it:
https://github.com/facebookarchive/fbshipit
Any others in this space?
It has since been merged into git proper:
https://manpages.debian.org/testing/git-man/git-subtree.1.en...
https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/using-git/about-git-s...
I wish all the effort into things like JJ and Pijul was going into solving those sorts of things instead!
And instead just "sync" a code folder from one main repo (perhaps containing common domain models) to other repos?
Basically the Go philosophy that a little bit of copying is better than a lot of dependency?
Some projects are also developed in the monorepo and exported via Copybara.
My team also uses it to version Starlark rule sets internally.
The key part for Copybara is that Google will make changes to the OSS projects from within the internal repo and everyone else will make changes to the OSS projects.
I suppose if you're running some security analysis on code in your own repo, the fact that you've copied the code in means that it'll run on your third party dependencies too, since they no longer appear to be third party.
Having a public repo as a dependency for your private corporate repo is a pain in the ass development-wise. Having a tree of such dependencies is a migraine.
Say, to rebase upstream MySQL changes onto a fork in the monorepo (in a random, non-specific example)
It works great and I've seen many teams gain significant productivity when collaborating in a monorepo with public bits.
If you're even toying with an internal monorepo you owe it to yourself to give it a try.
I’m curious what downsides folks have experienced with this tool?
Any tips?
I had used those to create separate repo for website artifacts while the same also remain plugged into the webapp dev repo. (Both sides remain modifiable and changes mergeable to the other side.)
Thx.
But it's definitely not geared towards forks, but rather mirrors with deterministic and invertible transforms.
It’s powerful enough to do a whole bidirectional shipping operation where you export and import code—no thanks, that’s a hassle. I use it mostly for a simple fire and forget export, where I take a folder out of its original repo and preserve the history. Then I just move development to the new repo. The new project layout can be completely different, but Git blame works and I’m happy with that.
One thing worth knowing: history "preservation" is actually cherry-picks with rewritten commits, not a true transplant. Git blame works because the file content and authorship carry over, but the SHAs are new. Copybara embeds the original SHA in a commit message trailer (GitOrigin-RevId), which is useful to know if you ever need to correlate commits across repos after the fact.
Do they not support contributions on the public repos back into the internal monorepo?
One is to try the bidirectional support with copybara itself, thought that usually requires more effort than it's worth.
Another is to have the external repo be the source of truth and then always import into google3. Kythe used to do this at least, though I gather it's not done that way anymore.
The third is to just replicate the patches externally (which is pretty easy to automate or semi-automate on a case by case basis), and verify that a re-copybara-export keeps zero diff
It works well when the assumptions hold, that there isn't large divergence on either side. It can actually be largely automated.
Gitlab has really simple way to mirror from Gitlab to Github or other git vendors/servers
E.g. translating from external bzl to internal blaze BUILD compatibility, changing between external imports and internal third_party style imports, etc etc.
If it's a pure mirror, copybara is super overkill
July, 2026: Google copybara allows one to move code between two prod repositories
March, 1974: IBM COPY allows one to move code between two prod partitioned data sets: OS/MVT and 0S/VS2 TSO Data Utilities COPY, FORMAT, LIST, MERGE User's Guide and Reference https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/downloads/8987
Handwritten bash scripts using git-replace and git-filter-repo [1] did a much better job
[1]: https://github.com/newren/git-filter-repo
this "mirror and use the local copy" dance is exactly how "any other third party tool" works within google.
I find it kind of funny that perforce support was not included, only git support seems to exist in any meaningful way: despite the primary use of copybara being for releasing internal google code (which lives in Piper, a fork of Perforce).
I actually got a bit worried when looking at the git history before making the PR, because there's a lot of Gerrit Change-ID markers (meaning there's some gerrit code review system somewhere which I'm not privvy too) and I might have submitted a PR which never gets upstreamed..
I feel the same pang of pain from the lack of a perforce version of Gerrit/Rietveld.. but, you can't ask for everything!
[0]: https://github.com/google/copybara/pull/347
This is incorrect. Piper is API-compatible with Perforce but is a totally different implementation, not a fork.
Maybe I am wrong.
There are some variations, but this is generally the same with all open source projects which live in their internal monorepo, such as gVisor or Bazel.
- https://abseil.io/resources/swe-book/html/ch19.html
- https://read.engineerscodex.com/p/how-google-takes-the-pain-...
I haven't found anything external that's as good, and am astounded that GitHub's incredibly lackluster PR review tooling is acceptable to most people. If anyone is aware of something in Critique's league, I'd love to hear about it!
Edit: I tried to do a reasonably thorough survey a couple of years ago when I left Google and https://codeapprove.com/ was the closest I found, but there were still many gaps.
GitHub's PR review workflow is archaic in comparison, especially now that every page takes 2-3 seconds to load.
I home some other Xoogler comes along and delivers a Critique build for 2026, I still think there's a need!
“Fetch and sync individual files or globs from other Git repositories, with commit tracking and local-change protection”
https://github.com/andrewmcwattersandco/git-fetch-file
https://dagster.io/blog/monorepos-the-hub-and-spoke-model-an...