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Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by mhitza on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:03AM (#47703179)
Never heard of them, and this page doesn't tell me what they do, but I've laughed at this line

> In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year

Not really, there's basically a single sub-market in the US market where that is the norm.

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by hibikir on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:07AM (#47703223)
Within the US, it's far more common than you think. That's typical senior dev money in a large company in cities like St Louis or KC. What is rare outside of the biggest markets is the whole "enough RSUs to double your salary" thing.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by horsawlarway on Thursday April 09, 2026 @11:45AM (#47705210)
Nah, like others have said - 150k is fairly normal for senior positions in any decently sized metro in the US at this point.

Even a decade ago, seniors could easily be pulling 120-150k in markets like Houston/Atlanta/Miami/etc... The relatively cheap markets.

I'm in Atlanta and I'd actually say 150k is a lowball offer for a senior in this market at this point. I'd expect 175k+.

Now - the flip side of this is that current competition is fairly insane with all the recent tech layoffs. So it's possible we're seeing some market correction. But I don't really think it's going to come down much. Between inflation and rising costs... 150k just isn't what it used to be. If it comes down... it's going to be because we're entering a real depression.

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The amount of money the US government has printed in the last 7 years is... insane. And while it was starting to taper back down in 2023 and early 2024... then we got the GOP, and the GOP is objectively bad with money (not that the dems are that much better...). So m1 supply is rising at a relatively steady rate again.

We going to feel the consequences for a LONG time (or very, very badly for a medium time... with unknown results).

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by efficax on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:08AM (#47703240)
the rare market is 250k+. You can get 150k in cleveland or milwaukee
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by dminvs on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:12AM (#47703300)
I'd consider this a lowball in Austin
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by superxpro12 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:16AM (#47703341)
Whats the take-home after housing and expenses tho? It's the same in CA... massive salaries, but also massive taxes+housing expenses.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by chipotle_coyote on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:43AM (#47703671)
At least in my experience, having worked in both Florida and California, that's more of a wash than people imagine it's going to be -- and more so than the "cost of living calculators" tend to demonstrate, at least if you're a renter.

I actually ran a few numbers based on current costs. If you're making $120K/yr in Florida and paying the average cost for a 1-bedroom rental in Tampa ($1,642/mo, as of April 2026 according to Apartments.com), your after-tax take home is $98 (24% federal tax bracket, no state tax) and you have $78.4K after rent. If you're making $180K/yr in California and paying the average cost for a 1-bedroom rental in San Jose ($2,705/mo), your after-tax take home is $130.5K (24% federal tax bracket, 9.3% CA state tax bracket) and you have $98K left after housing.

You can keep fiddling with the numbers, but in most cases, the premium for getting a tech job in Silicon Valley is sufficiently high that you really are making more in absolute dollars despite the higher cost of living.

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by dfadsadsf on Thursday April 09, 2026 @11:34AM (#47705087)
That math breaks down if you have kids and need 4bdrm house commutable distance to work in good school district - prohibitively expensive in Bay Area and affordable on engineer salary in most tier 2 cities. If you do not have kids, Bay Area clearly wins, especially if you are ok with studio/1bdrm.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by INTPenis on Thursday April 09, 2026 @11:30AM (#47705032)
>Never heard of them

They're big on dark web drug markets.

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by tadhglewis on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:23AM (#47703413)
Interestingly I applied for one of their senior frontend positions that required a "high level of experience" in Australia, they said 120k AUD with no room to go higher. Went with an offer of 170k instead.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by HWR_14 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:25AM (#47703439)
Well, that aligns with both "total raise of 93k AUD" and "we need more money to afford to hire senior people"
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by AugieDB on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:11AM (#47703278)
For a senior developer, $150,000 is about right. I'm looking at the latest half dozen jobs I've seen on LinkedIn for open senior developer positions and they all start at that number, and range up to $185k to $200k. Digging a little deeper, I see some th atstart well above that number, but it's for the huge companies you're thinking of -- Google, Netflix, Github.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by esskay on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:18AM (#47703370)
Time to broaden their hiring pool then, $150k is double the cost of a senior developer in many other parts of the world (yes including English speaking first world countries).

When you've got 90 days till the doors close you cant be picky about your hiring pool.

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by Arnt on Thursday April 09, 2026 @10:50AM (#47704522)
Read the posting. They dont have money for a team, they don't have money for a senior developer. Whether $150k/FTE or $75k doesn't matter, because they don't have either of those.

Once the server and other costs have been paid, the have money for... maybe a part-time junior in Cambodia.

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by mhitza on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:17AM (#47703362)
The claim is that 150k is the baseline that is often exceeded. I don't know the region you're looking for on LinkedIn, but what I see for European jobs is that they barely crack 100k for developers. At least the senior, non highly specialist, jobs I'm seeing.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by kilroy123 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:08AM (#47703239)
That salary is not unheard of at all in London. Especially when you convert £ to $.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by esskay on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:20AM (#47703389)
Sure but Londons known for being high wages. Now change that location to Cornwall or the North of England and watch it get almost cut in half.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by roryirvine on Thursday April 09, 2026 @11:26AM (#47704979)
Manchester is only about 10% below London, other cities along the M62 are about 15% below according to the salary benchmarking data I've seen. The bigger difference is more in the number and type of available roles.

That salary would be above the median for most perm senior dev positions in London, but still well within the usual range for established tech companies and well-funded startups.

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by esskay on Thursday April 09, 2026 @03:59PM (#47708964)
You went from picking the highest salary city...to the second highest paying city. You get how that comes across right?
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by roryirvine on Thursday April 09, 2026 @04:19PM (#47709275)
Most of the rest of the north is similar. Darlington's the main outlier, since it's dominated by the public sector.

And yes, a senior dev will be on half that in the public sector outside London - but only if you exclude the pension.

I don't have figures for anywhere in Cornwall. Is there actually much of a tech industry there?

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by zipy124 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:30AM (#47703492)
not unheard of, but not typical.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by ExpertAdvisor01 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:06AM (#47703209)
They are based in Switzerland . 140k USD median dev salary
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by mhitza on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:09AM (#47703247)
Interesting claim, where do you gather that data? The quick results I got where from a 2024 report on TheNextWeb claiming its around 90k USD equivalent in Switzerland https://thenextweb.com/news/european-cities-highest-salaries...
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by Tade0 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:26AM (#47703449)
Market rate for a senior engineer in much, much poorer Poland exceeds 80k at current exchange rates - ask me how I know.

I also had a contract in Switzerland for a brief, beautiful moment and in 2020 it was not weird to have an hourly rate exceeding 90CHF/h in this role.

Permanent employees were making anywhere in the range of 100-130k CHF, so the 140k USD figure is close adjusted for inflation.

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by ExpertAdvisor01 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:10AM (#47703269)
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by mhitza on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:14AM (#47703327)
Thanks for the data, 117500 CHF converted today is around 148k USD, and that means being in the top 25%
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by ExpertAdvisor01 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:16AM (#47703350)
It clearly says that the median is 110k CHF ~ 140k USD
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by xmattx on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:10AM (#47703272)
For a Senior perhaps. The figures I find for Switzerland are more in the 90-120 range depending on the source. Also, I think what OP was referring to is the 'most markets' bit. Switzerland is the best paying country in Europe (discounting London).
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by TeMPOraL on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:18AM (#47703373)
> Switzerland is the best paying country in Europe (discounting London).

How does that look when you correct for costs of living, because I imagine that would put London at the bottom of the list, as one of those places where senior-level tech salary is not enough to afford living in the city itself (and I don't mean the City of London, but the rest of it too).

Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by ExpertAdvisor01 on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:11AM (#47703287)
I wouldn’t have replied if the session foundation hadn’t been based in Switzerland.
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by KaiserPro on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:15AM (#47703329)
Yeah I'm not sure what they do, or why they need support
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by w4yai on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:04AM (#47703197)

    "Session is an end-to-end encrypted messenger that protects your private data. A decentralized app designed, built, and operated by a global community of privacy experts."
Re:Session is shutting down in 90 days by raverbashing on Thursday April 09, 2026 @09:07AM (#47703226)
A collection of strongly opinionated crypto experts running on hopes more than money is no way to run a government^W^W a messaging app