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Re:Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fi... by _moof on Monday March 23, 2026 @07:28AM (#47487992)
I'm very, very curious about whether the ARFF crew visually cleared the runway and final before crossing the hold short line. It's standard procedure for flight crew to do this, specifically to mitigate the risk of ATC errors.
Re:Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fi... by PierceJoy on Monday March 23, 2026 @08:13AM (#47488378)
I mean, isn't it obvious that they didn't?
Re:Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fi... by wat10000 on Monday March 23, 2026 @08:34AM (#47488603)
It’s obvious that either they didn’t, or they did but they didn’t see the plane. We don’t know which.
Re:Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fi... by bombcar on Monday March 23, 2026 @08:30AM (#47488551)
At night with multiple runways it can be very hard to see a plane on final.

Still, I'm always hesitant to cross an active runway.

Re:Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fi... by gortok on Monday March 23, 2026 @09:10AM (#47489020)
Reports are there were fog and rain at La Guardia at the time of the incident. They were on a short final, and it’s entirely possible they were not visible to the fire truck’s crew.
Re:Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fi... by _moof on Monday March 23, 2026 @02:47PM (#47493549)
I have over 1,000 hours as PIC in the NY area alone, in all seasons and all weather, and I was in the region last night, awake when the accident happened. LGA was reporting 4SM -RA BR FEW045 BKN090 OVC110 at the time of the accident. The weather wasn't anywhere close to what I'd call "bad" here. Sprinkles and some high clouds.

I can almost guarantee you the airplane was visible from taxiway D.

Re:Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fi... by cpncrunch on Monday March 23, 2026 @05:02PM (#47495071)
You can also see from the videos that they could have easily seen the plane.
Re:Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fi... by russdill on Monday March 23, 2026 @06:30PM (#47496025)
I want to agree, and it almost certainly seems like the case but visibility can be vary widely by position. So just because the camera was about as far away from the collision as the plane would have been when the truck was entering the runway, it doesn't mean the plane was visible to the firetruck.
Re:Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fi... by cmiles8 on Monday March 23, 2026 @10:00AM (#47489665)
Yes ARFF should still look before crossing, but the weather wasn’t great with limited visibility and thus even if they looked it’s possible they didn’t see anything.