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Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by gnarlouse on Friday March 20, 2026 @10:43PM (#47463529)
Apple achieved it with Mac OS X Snow Leopard. Apple then spent ~15 years un-achieving it. It started with iOS 7, and has culminated in the Liquid (Gl)ass era: a mess of unintuitive menus, terrible and inconsistent UI patterns, the lobotomite twins Siri & Apple Intelligence.

Although, surprisingly, built on top of absolutely incredible silicon.

Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by girvo on Friday March 20, 2026 @11:38PM (#47463757)
> Although, surprisingly, built on top of absolutely incredible silicon.

To me that's because thats a capital E "Engineering" driven task that Product can't get their grubby little mitts on and ruin.

Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by lmaoguy on Friday March 20, 2026 @11:47PM (#47463793)
No, it’s because product is now 100% the h1b class deciding what to do. Indian take over is real
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by LoganDark on Saturday March 21, 2026 @12:19AM (#47463950)
Minority in Apple R&D is mostly Asian, not Indian
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by Henchman21 on Saturday March 21, 2026 @12:39AM (#47464030)
I don't particularly care what their ethnicity happens to be. Just write good, bug free code that does things people want. How they get to there from here? No f'ing idea -- but I know that first they have to have to want to and they _clearly_ do not.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by andrekandre on Saturday March 21, 2026 @07:20AM (#47466023)

  > Just write good, bug free code that does things people want
in big tech, this is rarely caused by individuals and more by management, just fyi
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by alsetmusic on Saturday March 21, 2026 @01:11AM (#47464159)
Pretty cool being racist. I noticed people from varying ethnic backgrounds seemed to land in particular divisions (maybe schools in those countries focused on these cores), but I wouldn't ascribe nationality to anything as broadly as you did.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by iJohnDoe on Saturday March 21, 2026 @10:38AM (#47467451)
It's a fair point. The Indian take over is more relevant in Microsoft.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by Aperocky on Friday March 20, 2026 @11:00PM (#47463591)
It has posix shell, all is forgiven, can't complain about UI patterns that I never interact with.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by rbanffy on Saturday March 21, 2026 @06:47AM (#47465872)
Exactly.

Who could imagine Apple would eventually inherit Sun’s crown as the king of the RISC unix workstation?

Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by pjmlp on Saturday March 21, 2026 @09:44AM (#47466976)
No one, given how A/UX went down.

It was a mix of not buying Be, having a reverse acquisition with NeXT, Jobs taking over the reigns yet again, Sun doing a bunch of bad decisions.

Nowadays, following the spirit of old Apple, they only care the UNIX underpinnings as good enough, and that's about it.

Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by rbanffy on Saturday March 21, 2026 @02:18PM (#47469708)
Still, they managed to bring Unix to the masses. On a RISC platform even.

And their Unix is just fine.

Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by pjmlp on Saturday March 21, 2026 @02:20PM (#47469735)
UNIX had already won the server room by them with RISC.

Lets not pretend outside IIS with ASP, later ASP.NET, Active Directory, Sharepoint, SQL Server, SMB, there were any other deployment scenarios left for Windows.

Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by rbanffy on Sunday March 22, 2026 @11:34AM (#47478602)
I have to confess I've never seen a modern .NET stack deployment on anything other than Linux.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by tonyedgecombe on Saturday March 21, 2026 @07:46AM (#47466166)
Snow Leopard was riddled with bugs. Take a look at all the updates it had following its release to confirm that.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by AlexandrB on Saturday March 21, 2026 @09:02AM (#47466639)
If that's true, consider what it means for modern macOS quality when people look back on SL fondly as the most stable release.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by tonyedgecombe on Saturday March 21, 2026 @09:22AM (#47466792)
I think it means they are wearing rose tinted glasses.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by EldrRoot on Saturday March 21, 2026 @11:33AM (#47467939)
Exactly. SL was not as polished as people remember it to be. They’re just delusional with nostalgia.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by tonyedgecombe on Saturday March 21, 2026 @01:22PM (#47469061)
The noteworthy thing about Snow Leopard is that it was released at all. Apple had shifted all their effort onto getting the iPhone released and development on OS X pretty much stopped.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by benjaminoakes on Saturday March 21, 2026 @10:11PM (#47473757)
I thought they delayed Leopard, not Snow Leopard...
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by gnarlouse on Monday March 23, 2026 @09:27AM (#47489260)
I have become ~comfortably numb~ delusionally nostalgic.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by gnarlouse on Monday March 23, 2026 @09:27AM (#47489248)
Was it? I remember it being a pretty solid experience.
Re:Our Commitment to Windows Quality by WillAdams on Saturday March 21, 2026 @09:59AM (#47467095)
I still regret that I did not get a ModBook running Snow Leopard.