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Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by vaylian on Saturday January 17, 2026 @01:28PM (#46660535)
Whenever you hear a politician say "carbon neutral by 2050", interrupt them. The real goal is to avoid getting too far over 1.5 degrees warming. We need to avoid reaching tipping points that will cause non-recoverable damage to the earth system. The year 2050 is meaningless. Actual global average temperatures is what should be measured.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by cco on Saturday January 17, 2026 @02:36PM (#46661287)
You're still hearing politicians talk about climate change? This could be an American bubble but I haven't heard talk of climate change from US politicians, or the other global leaders that filter through our news cycle, since 2023.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by apublicfrog on Saturday January 17, 2026 @02:56PM (#46661451)
Of course. Here's the Australian PM 4 months ago:

https://www.pm.gov.au/media/setting-australias-2035-climate-...

Here's the NZ PM last month:

https://www.ruralnewsgroup.co.nz/rural-news/rural-general-ne...

I would imagine it's a relevant political football in most first world countries. I avoid American news, but the bits I see make me think it's probably still focused on culture war garbage.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by Eddy_Viscosity2 on Saturday January 17, 2026 @02:05PM (#46660944)
2050 is not meaningless. Its close enough to feel like its achievable but far enough away that you can put off immediate action and still feel there is time to get it done. Reminds of the lyrics of the spirit of the west song:

It's a ways outside of town

But the distance has its uses

Close enough to make the effort

Far enough to make excuses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZXgl5KxUQY

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by shrubby on Saturday January 17, 2026 @02:21PM (#46661125)
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by Faaak on Saturday January 17, 2026 @02:10PM (#46660990)
Even if we stop all emissions right now, we'll exceed the 1.5C target, so...
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by b00ty4breakfast on Saturday January 17, 2026 @03:36PM (#46661803)
The Doomerist paralysis has been engineered by the folks who look to benefit the most from inaction, mainly the fossil fuel and related industries.

To not even attempt to head for the lifeboats is suicide.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by networkadmin on Saturday January 17, 2026 @05:30PM (#46662761)
Exactly what is it about CO2, a plant food, that scares you so much? You do realize that green plants react to increased CO2 percentage with stronger growth?

You're the one calling me a "doomer"?

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by WaxProlix on Saturday January 17, 2026 @05:46PM (#46662868)
Plants and humans both love water, but you can still drown.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by networkadmin on Saturday January 17, 2026 @08:55PM (#46664082)
Good news, everyone! ~450 ppm is far from the 10,000+ PPM that is toxic to humans or animals. (That's 4.5%, for the math challenged.) At this rate of increase you'll be "drowning" in a thousand or more years, I guess.

It's also 1/4 of the approximate 1,600 PPM that is optimal for a large number of plants to grow. In other words, the current levels are actually very low, compared to what the plants evolved to use.

Increased plant growth from more CO2 results in more biomass, thus more CO2 uptake, so it's a virtuous cycle and you'll be OK after all.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by WA on Sunday January 18, 2026 @02:41AM (#46665654)
Please attempt steelmanning the global warming greenhouse effect and its consequences as an intellectual exercise.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by networkadmin on Sunday January 18, 2026 @08:24AM (#46667636)
No clue what sort of argument you're attempting to make here.

My post as entered is correct.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by WaxProlix on Sunday January 18, 2026 @01:24PM (#46670583)
He was asking you to try to 'steelman', or take seriously the strongest version of, the arguments of your counterparts, rather than being dismissive.

"Plants like CO2" is not a counterargument to "Increased atmoospheric CO2 will have a number of outcomes that are net negative for humanity", so I presume they're asking you to actually think about the argument being made and respond to it, not some other, made up one.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by arbitrary_name on Saturday January 17, 2026 @06:16PM (#46663117)
Where do i even begin to respond to this?

Plants growing slightly faster does not mitigate the many consequences of increased CO2.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by BigTTYGothGF on Saturday January 17, 2026 @06:52PM (#46663372)
Nitrate is a plant food too, doesn't mean it's not killing large parts of the ocean.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by b00ty4breakfast on Saturday January 17, 2026 @09:28PM (#46664271)
I didn't call you anything, I wasn't even talking to you.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by pjerem on Saturday January 17, 2026 @03:23PM (#46661676)
The nice thing with climate change is that it can always get worse !

If we miss the 1.5 target then the next target is 1.51. And so on.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by agentultra on Saturday January 17, 2026 @02:22PM (#46661146)
Every point of a degree we can mitigate will matter a lot.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by threethirtytwo on Saturday January 17, 2026 @01:46PM (#46660699)
A couple years back I saw articles about how we're basically less than a year from the tipping point.

Then nothing.

My guess is we passed the tipping point. It's inevitable by now.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by mistrial9 on Saturday January 17, 2026 @01:53PM (#46660790)
Berkeley Earth berkeleyearth.org › home › global temperature report for 2023 Global Temperature Report for 2023 - Berkeley Earth

February 29, 2024 - 2023 was the warmest year on Earth since direct observations began, and the first year to exceed 1.5 °C above our 1850-1900 average. ...

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by AlecSchueler on Sunday January 18, 2026 @08:39AM (#46667730)
For sure but we can still stop making it even worse.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by deadbabe on Saturday January 17, 2026 @03:18PM (#46661637)
That goal is no longer possible.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by vaylian on Saturday January 17, 2026 @03:23PM (#46661677)
I agree that staying below 1.5°C is extremely unlikely at this point. But it is still worthwhile to try to keep it under 1.6°C.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by Freedom2 on Saturday January 17, 2026 @03:05PM (#46661526)
I don't think it's that easy to interrupt politicians, especially these days as more and more protections are justifiably given to them.

Do you have an example where you personally interrupted a politician effectively?

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by themafia on Saturday January 17, 2026 @02:29PM (#46661219)
> We need to avoid reaching tipping points that will cause non-recoverable damage to the earth system.

Then I'd be far more worried about nuclear war than minor temperature excursions. Aside from that "non recoverable" damage happens every day. What do you think mining is?

> Actual global average temperatures is what should be measured.

On average it was 10 degrees Fahrenheit cooler last year than it was the previous where I live in northern CA.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by misnome on Saturday January 17, 2026 @02:50PM (#46661405)
Congratulations, you know the local weather
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by simianparrot on Saturday January 17, 2026 @03:18PM (#46661632)
Local weather is what matters to individuals. So is access to affordable energy.

You cannot coerce someone to ignore their local weather and sabotage access to affordable energy because of some global average. It’s a losing battle that’s fundamentally misled.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by oezi on Saturday January 17, 2026 @04:40PM (#46662396)
You have to coerce the individual to follow the strategic direction despite tactical disadvantages. This is what leadership means.

If we all individually spend more money to accommodate the effects of climate change than their causes, then we are wasting enormous economic resources.

Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by simianparrot on Saturday January 17, 2026 @05:01PM (#46662546)
Sure, but local is a radius. There's my local, then there's my region's local, then there's my country's local. As wonderful as globalism sounds on paper, if saving the global average leads to a drought or a flood for another country, or another region, then you are trying to convince others of giving up a lot for no tangible relevant gain.
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by immibis on Saturday January 17, 2026 @11:59PM (#46664900)
Isn't it interesting how the warming target is always a few tenths of a degree above the current level of warming?
Re:2025 was the third hottest year on record by lukasm on Sunday January 18, 2026 @09:25AM (#46668020)
My new conspiracy theory is that Trump wants Greenland, because most of south and central America will be too hot. There are 800mln people south of Colorado. 30% will emigrate north.

:)