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Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by Hizonner on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @01:57PM (#46516816)
A "diode" is not an air gap. If there is any flow in either direction, you don't have an air gap. This isn't hard to understand.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by locusofself on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @03:06PM (#46517880)
Whether you want to define it as a true air gap or not, this is effectively how most "air gapped" clouds work, with diodes.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by stronglikedan on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @02:25PM (#46517251)
Last I checked, light does indeed cross gaps of air, so "air gapped" is at least more appropriate than your comment.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by hackstack on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @02:32PM (#46517367)
By that logic, an open wifi router would be considered air gapped, n’est pas?
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by bigfatkitten on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @03:20PM (#46518077)
I don’t see what diving into pointless semantics adds to the discussion here.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by Y_Y on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @04:40PM (#46519237)
Good thing it's only important semantics that are being dived into then
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by MisterTea on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @08:51PM (#46521533)
Because a company advertising security solutions who misunderstands basic terminology is highly suspect.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by Havoc on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @02:36PM (#46517436)
Unless the mossad is after you one way light based coms may as well be
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by Alex2037 on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @02:43PM (#46517527)
yes, but if your adversary is capable of exploiting a one-way diode to RCE, you might as well just give up.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by magicalhippo on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @03:50PM (#46518492)
Prepare to give up I'd say[1][2].

[1]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1503.07919

[2]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.06884

Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by Alex2037 on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @05:27PM (#46519722)
both of these require the isolated machine to be heavily compromised to begin with.

there are a lot of such extremely hypothetical attacks no one should take seriously. you might as well worry about sensitive data being exfiltrated from your unshielded optical nerve,

Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by wakawaka28 on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @08:33PM (#46521393)
Eavesdropping on stray RF signals is not so theoretical though. It's been done by NSA and no doubt others. We also need to worry about hardware supply chains including random compromised stuff that "accidentally" leaks or exposes backdoors.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by tripletao on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @09:36PM (#46521858)
In many industrial applications, the concern is mostly control of the isolated side, like because that could physically destroy stuff. Exfiltration is a smaller or nonexistent concern, since you're already sending most data out deliberately.

So there's still an attack surface, but it's a lot smaller. Any side channel exploit would need to work (at least in some initial form) without changes to the software on the isolated side, since you otherwise can't bootstrap your way to installing it.

Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by elevation on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @09:16AM (#46526590)
If I gave away a PC with perfect RF isolation and a rock solid supply chain it wouldn’t improve most user’s overall security because their operational security is so poor. There is no need for any organization to snoop your RF when you’re leaking everything they care about in your metadata.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by wakawaka28 on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @08:50PM (#46536085)
Intercepting metadata requires a different type of surveillance which may not be possible. The metadata is not at all equivalent to what can be sniffed via RF, which can include your actual keystrokes and the pixels on your screen.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by UltraSane on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @05:30PM (#46519743)
Yes, this is about as secure as any network connection can be made.
Re:Creating a bespoke data diode for air‑gapped networks by wakawaka28 on Tuesday January 06, 2026 @08:29PM (#46521375)
There's only a couple of cases where this can go wrong. Either the contents of what is being sent out could be wrong, or the hardware itself could be tampered with to extract extra information on another optical or radio channel. Both of these require extensive software tampering. In the simple case where you trust the software on both sides, and the hardware, this can be practically as good as it gets (with the requirement that the inside be monitored automatically somehow).