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Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by pelagicAustral on Thursday September 18, 2025 @05:07AM (#45287354)
I think what they did is slimy as hell, but it's hard to side with anyone using Discord, Slack, et al for doing community based support and building a knowledge base. This was not an issue in the era of forums, that supposedly were replaced with SaaS closed communities because of spam...

Fyi, Campfire is open source now: https://github.com/basecamp/once-campfire

Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by 48terry on Thursday September 18, 2025 @05:17AM (#45287421)
You're finding it "hard to side" with a literal nonprofit charity getting bullied ruthlessly because something something SaaS not self-managed? My God, dude.
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by jack_pp on Thursday September 18, 2025 @06:52AM (#45288073)
This isn't a charity focused on aiding the homeless or something like that. This is a charity focused on teaching programming. When there's perfectly good open source alternatives to slack it IS their fault since they should know better. If not for being immune to such problems then atleast for saving money since IMO a non profit should be as lean as possible. A for profit company can justify using a SaaS in a cost / benefit calculation, having to face competition so they need to move very fast etc. This isn't the case for a non profit.
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by brandon272 on Thursday September 18, 2025 @01:41PM (#45292625)
I have always found the argument of "They deserve this because they should know better" to be a very bizarre way of thinking.

It implies there is only one correct way to think or to prioritize or to approach a problem. It also (pointlessly) tries to shame someone for something that has already happened and cannot be reversed.

Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by pelagicAustral on Thursday September 18, 2025 @05:21AM (#45287468)
I would find it hard to side with Jesus Christ himself if he decided to start teaching via Discord server.
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by crossroadsguy on Thursday September 18, 2025 @07:24AM (#45288269)
I wouldn't mind if it comes with fish and wine. On the other hand, I believe Discord will be the next bomb for too many communities/groups out there. Or maybe after they get acquired first, either by a PE or a PE-esque corp (e.g. Salesforce, Oracle).
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by mvanbaak on Thursday September 18, 2025 @05:43AM (#45287621)
What does a dude from centuries ago have to do with all this?
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by Fade_Dance on Thursday September 18, 2025 @06:19AM (#45287849)
It's reductio ad absurdum with a twist, and that dude is the typical shoe-in for hyperbolic examples that need a moral paragon.
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by daedrdev on Thursday September 18, 2025 @02:24PM (#45293180)
I feel like communities have very good reasons to at least consider the option where the most users (since this nonprofit focuses on teens) are already using
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year by gosub100 on Thursday September 18, 2025 @07:52AM (#45288503)
The number two focus of a charity should be good financial management. First being the charity's mission. I would not support even a large charity to pay $200k/yr for a chat server.