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Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by bondarchuk on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @10:46AM (#45182663)
"it is also an amount that ASML can not afford to lose"

Did you mean to say "it is not an amount that asml cannot afford to lose" or "it is an amount that asml can afford to lose"?

Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by prasoon2211 on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @11:29AM (#45183342)
Right, it took me a couple of re-reads and I (non-native speaker) ended up asking ChatGPT about it and yes, the sentence is worded incorrectly
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by yieldcrv on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @10:51AM (#45182730)
the former would create a double negative

the latter changes the meaning

it’s correct the first way, ASML would be harmed by losing that money

“cannot afford to lose”

Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by bondarchuk on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @10:52AM (#45182743)
"While 1.3B€ is not pocket change, it is also an amount that ASML can not afford to lose." - The sentence is framed like a contrast but then instead it says the same thing twice.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by realty_geek on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @11:09AM (#45182996)
@bondarchuk you are right. Something wrong with that sentence.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by 0x457 on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @01:28PM (#45185337)
It reads like the second part counters the first, but it’s actually the same point repeated. It's not that hard to understand.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by kaechle on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @12:33PM (#45184480)
I’ll see your pedantry and raise you ... more pedantry. The sentence may be a bit clunky, but there’s nothing grammatically wrong with it. And you’re leaving out the first sentence, which frames the comparison:

> ASML gross revenue was 28B€ in 2024, and their net income was 7.5B€. While 1.3B€ (the amount ASML invested in this 1.7B€ fund raise) is not pocket change, it is also an amount that ASML can not afford to lose.

Worded another way:

> ASML had a healthy margin of 7.5B€ on 28B€ in gross revenue in 2024. 1.3B€ isn’t a huge chunk of this, relatively speaking, but *it’s also an amount that ASML can’t afford to lose.*

Still clunky. Still not wrong.

Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by kgwgk on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @01:32PM (#45185389)
> there’s nothing grammatically wrong with it.

There was nothing in the comment that you reply to suggesting that it was grammatically wrong: "The sentence is framed like a contrast but then instead it says the same thing twice." If anything it suggests it's semantically wrong.

Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by paulddraper on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @04:33PM (#45188522)
Either incorrectly worded, or very poorly worded.

It's a open question as to which one.

Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by yieldcrv on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @11:05PM (#45192709)
language exists to convey a shared concept, you don’t think the sentence means “it’s a lot of money for ASML to risk losing?” and wouldn’t have been mentioned if it meant inconsequential or small?
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by paulddraper on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @01:10PM (#45200725)
Based on context + structure, I believe the sentence has a stray "not" -- the amount is not small but it is an affordable loss for ASML.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by ath92 on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @06:06PM (#45189957)
You replaced “1.3B is not pocket change” with “1.3B€ isn’t a huge chunk of this”. Those have opposite meanings.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by apt-apt-apt-apt on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @11:59PM (#45193076)
I think the meaning behind this confusing-ass phrase is, "It's an investment that ASM cannot miss out on making" ('amount' is a brain-teaser to throw you off the intended meaning)
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by maeln on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @04:25AM (#45194812)
Yeah sorry, mistakes on my part, I meant to say it is an amount that ASML can afford to lose