Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership
by bondarchuk on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @10:52AM
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"While 1.3B€ is not pocket change, it is also an amount that ASML can not afford to lose." - The sentence is framed like a contrast but then instead it says the same thing twice.
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Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership
by realty_geek on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @11:09AM
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@bondarchuk you are right. Something wrong with that sentence.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership
by 0x457 on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @01:28PM
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It reads like the second part counters the first, but it’s actually the same point repeated. It's not that hard to understand.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership
by kaechle on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @12:33PM
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I’ll see your pedantry and raise you ... more pedantry. The sentence may be a bit clunky, but there’s nothing grammatically wrong with it. And you’re leaving out the first sentence, which frames the comparison:
> ASML gross revenue was 28B€ in 2024, and their net income was 7.5B€. While 1.3B€ (the amount ASML invested in this 1.7B€ fund raise) is not pocket change, it is also an amount that ASML can not afford to lose.
Worded another way:
> ASML had a healthy margin of 7.5B€ on 28B€ in gross revenue in 2024. 1.3B€ isn’t a huge chunk of this, relatively speaking, but *it’s also an amount that ASML can’t afford to lose.*
Still clunky. Still not wrong.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership
by kgwgk on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @01:32PM
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> there’s nothing grammatically wrong with it.
There was nothing in the comment that you reply to suggesting that it was grammatically wrong: "The sentence is framed like a contrast but then instead it says the same thing twice." If anything it suggests it's semantically wrong.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership
by paulddraper on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @04:33PM
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Either incorrectly worded, or very poorly worded.
It's a open question as to which one.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership
by yieldcrv on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @11:05PM
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language exists to convey a shared concept, you don’t think the sentence means “it’s a lot of money for ASML to risk losing?” and wouldn’t have been mentioned if it meant inconsequential or small?
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership
by paulddraper on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @01:10PM
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Based on context + structure, I believe the sentence has a stray "not" -- the amount is not small but it is an affordable loss for ASML.