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Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by bondarchuk on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @10:52AM (#45182743)
"While 1.3B€ is not pocket change, it is also an amount that ASML can not afford to lose." - The sentence is framed like a contrast but then instead it says the same thing twice.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by realty_geek on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @11:09AM (#45182996)
@bondarchuk you are right. Something wrong with that sentence.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by 0x457 on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @01:28PM (#45185337)
It reads like the second part counters the first, but it’s actually the same point repeated. It's not that hard to understand.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by kaechle on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @12:33PM (#45184480)
I’ll see your pedantry and raise you ... more pedantry. The sentence may be a bit clunky, but there’s nothing grammatically wrong with it. And you’re leaving out the first sentence, which frames the comparison:

> ASML gross revenue was 28B€ in 2024, and their net income was 7.5B€. While 1.3B€ (the amount ASML invested in this 1.7B€ fund raise) is not pocket change, it is also an amount that ASML can not afford to lose.

Worded another way:

> ASML had a healthy margin of 7.5B€ on 28B€ in gross revenue in 2024. 1.3B€ isn’t a huge chunk of this, relatively speaking, but *it’s also an amount that ASML can’t afford to lose.*

Still clunky. Still not wrong.

Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by kgwgk on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @01:32PM (#45185389)
> there’s nothing grammatically wrong with it.

There was nothing in the comment that you reply to suggesting that it was grammatically wrong: "The sentence is framed like a contrast but then instead it says the same thing twice." If anything it suggests it's semantically wrong.

Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by paulddraper on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @04:33PM (#45188522)
Either incorrectly worded, or very poorly worded.

It's a open question as to which one.

Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by yieldcrv on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @11:05PM (#45192709)
language exists to convey a shared concept, you don’t think the sentence means “it’s a lot of money for ASML to risk losing?” and wouldn’t have been mentioned if it meant inconsequential or small?
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by paulddraper on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @01:10PM (#45200725)
Based on context + structure, I believe the sentence has a stray "not" -- the amount is not small but it is an affordable loss for ASML.
Re:ASML, Mistral AI enter strategic partnership by ath92 on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @06:06PM (#45189957)
You replaced “1.3B is not pocket change” with “1.3B€ isn’t a huge chunk of this”. Those have opposite meanings.