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Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by hofrogs on Thursday July 10, 2025 @01:59PM (#44523732)
AI-generated images on the front page really take away from the trustworthiness of this thing..
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by kstrauser on Thursday July 10, 2025 @02:24PM (#44523982)
And in reality, someone making a personal project used a tool at their disposal to add pretty pictures to their website, said website not being a part of the project in any way.

If they vibe coded the app, sure, be skeptical. But there's no indication they did, just that they wanted images for their website, and they're a software engineer and not a graphics designer.

I put about as much weight in the origin of those graphics as which website editor they use. If they were advertising themselves as a web designer, sure, maybe that's relevant. That's not what they're doing here though.

Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by hofrogs on Thursday July 10, 2025 @02:26PM (#44524012)
Not having any pictures at all is better than having AI pictures, in my opinion
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by kstrauser on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:13PM (#44524469)
Why is that different from disliking their font preference? It's an aesthetic choice, made by someone who's not advertising their web design expertise, that's purely subjective.

If this site were their product, maybe that'd matter. But why does that matter in this context?

Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by chowells on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:27PM (#44524613)
Because it shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work graphic artists actually do. Now if that's your brand, great. You are communicating it effectively. If it's not your brand, it's probably worth considering the subtext in your presentation.
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by eadmund on Thursday July 10, 2025 @05:02PM (#44525578)
> it shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work graphic artists actually do

No more than wearing off-the-rack clothes shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work tailors actually do.

No more than wearing factory-woven cloth shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work weavers actually do.

No more than heating a can of soup shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work chefs de cuisine actually do.

In my cases as well as yours, one certainly can choose to spend extra for the luxury of the best to meet the want, but it is also fine to spend less and meet the need. In my cases as well as yours, judging someone for the value he assigns to a luxury is gauche.

Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by evolve2k on Thursday July 10, 2025 @08:28PM (#44527224)
The cost of obtaining the alternative; Creative Commons use images or even just inserting emojis is already free. Your argument doesn’t hold up.
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by XorNot on Thursday July 10, 2025 @05:04PM (#44525599)
It's free software. Graphic artists don't work for free.
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by KronisLV on Friday July 11, 2025 @06:05AM (#44530388)
> Because it shows a lack of respect for and understanding of the work graphic artists actually do.

If I cannot afford a graphic designer, then my choices are:

  - AI slop
  - MS Paint graphics (or really poorly made stuff in Inkscape)
  - stealing someone else's icons and graphics off of Google Images (or trying to find stuff with an open license)
  - not including graphics
Obviously the first one is the easiest when you want something, but also quite controversial.
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by progval on Thursday July 10, 2025 @06:56PM (#44526626)
It shows a lack of attention to detail when the illustration for "Merkle Trees" is not a forest (it has cycles). And "A Simple Key Hierarchy" could use an illustration of a real example instead of nonsense.
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by comex on Thursday July 10, 2025 @09:35PM (#44527603)
It shows the author is willing to publish content that looks right at first glance but falls apart upon closer inspection, lacking rigor and consistency. That same description could also apply to your average amateur cryptosystem, which tends to be insecure as a result. If the author has low standards for images, might he also have low standards for his own code?

In this case, probably not! The text on the website and the author’s comments here and his background all suggest that he writes high-quality cryptosystems. But the AI art by itself is still evidence pointing to lower quality.

Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by throwaway328 on Thursday July 10, 2025 @09:39PM (#44527628)
If someone used comic sans for their cryptographic software landing page, and someone else said: "this font makes me wonder if I can have any faith in this human being's aesthetic sense", I am willing to bet a nickel that you wouldn't be employing any of the same arguments that you're now employing to defend their choice of LLM images so devotedly.

Many people find using LLM images tacky and garish. It screams low-effort slop, to a significant number of people. When it's so easy to find great usable images on wikipedia, for example, it's hard to know why a sophisticated technical person would take the risk involved in this choice.

I'd a quick look there at the images on the wp page for chains, and the one for knots - some really excellent images. One doesn't need a PhD in web design to pull it off, either.

Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by silon42 on Friday July 11, 2025 @04:35AM (#44529691)
Hmm, maybe I need to reconsider having my choice of fonts enforced in my web browser settings (or have a whitelist of "comic sans", at least)
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by lijok on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:12PM (#44524459)
And you’re not just having a kneejerk reaction?
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by brookst on Thursday July 10, 2025 @02:47PM (#44524200)
Perhaps it’s a filter to intentionally scope audience.
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by Datagenerator on Thursday July 10, 2025 @02:18PM (#44523941)
While I understand your concern about AI-generated images impacting trustworthiness, it's worth noting a couple of key things that might change your perspective:

Open Source and Transparent This project isn't hiding anything. It's completely open source, meaning the entire codebase is available for anyone to inspect, audit, and verify. This level of transparency is a strong counter to potential trustworthiness issues, as the community can collectively ensure its integrity.

White Paper Included Beyond just the code, there's a detailed white paper that outlines the underlying methodology, technical specifications, and goals of the project. This provides a deep dive into how it works, offering a robust explanation that stands apart from any superficial impressions given by images.

The focus here seems to be on transparency and verifiable information, which the open-source nature and accompanying white paper strongly support.

Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by hofrogs on Thursday July 10, 2025 @02:25PM (#44524006)
I feel like this comment is AI-generated, also
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by brookst on Thursday July 10, 2025 @02:48PM (#44524210)
Absolutely, I can see why you feel that way.
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by tln on Thursday July 10, 2025 @04:29PM (#44525206)
Those images (bootstrap, vault) are so tertiary to the both the article and the project.

I'm excited to try this out personally! Thanks for building this maxtaco

Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by minitech on Thursday July 10, 2025 @11:39PM (#44528187)
Yes, they’re so tertiary that there was no reason to include them on the website. They’re ugly and mismatched, don’t consistently add value to the content, and make a negative first impression (for these reasons and for people who have valid aversions to AI slop). (By the way, all or almost all of the images are generated, not just the two you listed.) Useless images are far from a new problem (gotta love those Medium-article-style heros that can take multiple MB when people forget to optimize them) but AI further lowers the quality bar.
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by UltraSane on Thursday July 10, 2025 @07:04PM (#44526692)
Like it or not complaining about AI generated images now is like complaining about people using Photoshop or Illustrator to create images.
Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by evolve2k on Thursday July 10, 2025 @08:32PM (#44527241)
I agree. Max, strongly encourage you to remove the AI images. Not everyone is bothered but a significant number of people are.

You 100% didn’t vibe code this, but the AI images give that sort of impression.

Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by aspenmayer on Thursday July 10, 2025 @11:52PM (#44528248)
I think this complaint is likely against HN guidelines against these kinds of complaints about the site layout or how the page is designed. Will be flagging this complaint every time in the future because I consider it against guidelines.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without consideration, per Hitchens’s Razor. I don’t think research exists about a relation between AI generated images and quality of the project using them, so your complaint seems like motivated reasoning because you believe that generated images are a sign of poor quality or judgement in an area that would reflect on other aspects of the project. The fact that our perceptions are colored in this way is not accurate, and is gamed by marketers. Criticism of the promotional aspects of a project like this which isn’t commercial or customer facing is not very convincing on your part and deserves being called out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor

Re:FOKS: The Federated Open Key Service by karambanoonoo on Friday July 11, 2025 @02:27PM (#44535474)
FOKS you, narc!