How is it possible they influence so much of what happens in western politics, or at least how whole nations respond to their genocidal war anyway?

One theory is that an abundance of American Christians believe in dispensational premillennialism[0], which rebukes orthodox Judaism in the hopes of returning Christ. Many dispensationalists (including Issac Newton[1]) attempted to interpret the Bible as a function of divine will, and argued that the foundation of Israel is directly imperative due to the prophecy of Daniel. This seems to go against the majority orthodox Judaism interpretation that the Third Temple (as well as the return of Christ) is willed by God alone and not predetermined conditions that men can control.

It's a bit out-there, but unfortunately I can't write-off DJT accepting it all at face-value. He's got conspicuous in-laws and an awfully weird track-record writing policy for the Levant. A religious conviction to defend Israel on behalf of his savior seems to slot rather neatly into his internal belief system.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premillennialism#Dispensationa...

[1] https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16878

Dispensationalism is a heresy that flows out of the Scofield Bible, created by a con artist, Cyrus Scofield. He was likely funded and supported by Zionists.

The Israel of the Bible does not refer to the country Israel, but many Christians have been deceived.

The simple truth is there are a lot of zionists in powerful positions both in terms of governmental and monetary. Open wikipedia and look up cabinets and powerful people in US government since WW2. Pay attention to their ethnicity; even if half are zionists, that's a lot of people. Edit: people downvoting this, first part of the comment is just facts, second part is plausible speculation. Why are you downvoting?

No, you are putting words in my mouth and being very reductive. Majority of powerful people is not jewish nor zionist, but there is probably a lot of zionists amongst them. And no, not all jews are zionists, nor all jews are in powerful positions.

In addition, not all Zionists are Jews.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

> Christian Zionism is a political and religious ideology that, in a Christian context, espouses the return of the Jewish people to the Holy Land.[1] Likewise, it holds that the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 was in accordance with biblical prophecies transmitted through the Old Testament: that the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the Levant—the eschatological "Gathering of Israel"—is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.[1][2][3] The term began to be used in the mid-20th century, in place of Christian restorationism, as proponents of the ideology rallied behind Zionists in support of a Jewish national homeland.[1][4][5]

Again, straw man arguments through and through.

Zionists control the US, the US controls the money. The control of the US happened through decades of very savvy lobbying and a feedback loop involving foreign aid, campaign contributions, kickbacks, and investments in the military industrial complex. There is probably a very small portion of apocalyptic death cultists wanting to bring about Armageddon, but I doubt there are very many. The US has been the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world for a while, so it has quite a bit of ability to bully others through various means. Those means invariably end up being used to push government policy in many countries toward a pro-Zionist agenda. Unlike similar campaigns WRT Russia or China, nobody really trades with Palestine or has any non-political interest their existence so non-compliance is limited and often transient.

Defence contractors hire a lot of people which in turn create a lot of ancillary jobs to support said industries.

Defence contractors are also becoming increasingly sophisticated so they use more software, more chips, more clouds, and more information security.

Almost all of MAFANG has some defence-related footprint, and some have multiple. You might see a few defence/defence adjacent companies in the monthly WhoIsHiring posts as well as https://www.workatastartup.com .

Many US states actually have laws on the books that prohibits anybody that works with or I think event contracts with the state gov from "discrimination against Israel", in various forms, etc, depending on the particular state.

To my knowledge, no US state has any other sort of legal recognition of any other foreign government/state.

Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws

>Wanting Israel to exist because the world has shown it will not allow Jews to be safe anywhere else does not make someone manipulated by a foreign power.

Is this an alt account? This is basically the exact wording as another comment flagged minutes ago.

You're seeing what you see all over the web: (badly imho) organized attempted to control public opinion. It's no different than the "50 cent army"[0] commentators and just as obvious to anyone paying attention. These are standard talking points regurgitated ad nauseam anytime certain topics come up. It was always inevitable that social media would devolve into this, but still sad to see it happen in so many places.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

It's possible to believe that both October 7th and the subsequent genocide of Palestinians are horrific.

It's the duty of the press to report on these horrors in an unbiased and impartial manner.

> You few bleeding heart lefties

Ad hominems aren't arguments, fyi

Sorry, that was supposed to say “a few” not “you few”, dunno how I managed that.

Yes, you are exactly right and I salute you for posting this. I believe the vast majority would say both of your thoughts here. Stop attacks and genocide on all. Hamas was awful on Oct 7, and the attacks on the innocent in Gaza, they are starving them are also.

You can be very much in favor of Israel the country existing, and even defending itself, while still being opposed to Israel's actions in Gaza.

I have not seen credible people call such a stance "being manipulated by the Jews".

You leapt to at least 3 conclusions in only two sentences. That's talent.

1. "The world" is too broad of an audience to indict.

2. "Anywhere else" does not necessitate the endless support of a rogue state.

3. Israeli statehood is a Zionist matter with a highly mixed opinion among Jews (especially under the current Likud admin).

I don’t think the country of Israel is explicitly doing the manipulating, I think one country’s allies are just statistically richer and more influential than the other

Like Qatar?

Qatar's riches are not that _unique_. It's just oil. It's a commodity.

Qatar sells natural gas not oil

Same idea

In the case of Australia you're correct in that it's not Israel reaching into Australia to alter opinion.

What is the case (in a many layered complex fabric) is that Australian Jewish groups have both actively pushed a narrative and worked hard to discredit any inkling of voice given to Palenstine by the public broadcaster that does work hard to be in the vicinity of neutral.

For better or worse they have gamed the Australian media system in their favour.

This recently hit the Federal Court of Australia which determined that (former) ABC executives (senior staff of the public broadcaster) caved to a pressure campaign to fire a radio broadcaster who tweeted a link to a Human Rights Watch report (that was unfavourable to Isreal) "in her own time" (not on the public clock and not contrary to any employment agreement).

Court Documents: https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/access-to-files-and-tra...

Extensive other reporting elsewhere.