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Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by thaumasiotes on Saturday July 05, 2025 @06:09PM (#44475981)
> ruining the gene pool

In what sense? Is being bigger Platonically better than being smaller?

Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by p1necone on Saturday July 05, 2025 @07:21PM (#44476346)
Presumably the optimal size for survival when humans aren't applying pressure via fishing is bigger. Perhaps "ruining" is hyperbolic, but this is making the fish less fit for their environment.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by kbutler on Saturday July 05, 2025 @08:48PM (#44476804)
...less fit for their environment excluding human fishing pressure.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by tzs on Saturday July 05, 2025 @09:05PM (#44476886)
It is making them less fit for their environment? I can see how it is making them less fit for the environment they used to be in before they were subject to large scale human fishing, but that's not their environment now.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by mattmaroon on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:05PM (#44477487)
If that’s the case it should return if we stopped fishing.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by heavyset_go on Sunday July 06, 2025 @12:37AM (#44477881)
Not always the case. Any number of things can happen that could prevent that from happening, like extinction, as an extreme example.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by thoroughburro on Sunday July 06, 2025 @08:01AM (#44479974)
No. A certain gene expression can just be gone forever. Nothing guarantees the desired expression will evolve again.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by mattmaroon on Sunday July 06, 2025 @10:48AM (#44481234)
Sure it does, there is still variation in the sizing of them. If the previous size was the ideal one, and assuming that has otherwise not changed, the larger cod will be more fit and breed more.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by kwk1 on Sunday July 06, 2025 @06:15PM (#44484582)
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by Scarblac on Sunday July 06, 2025 @03:55AM (#44478706)
Their environment is one where humans prey on them, especially on the large ones. It's a selection pressure like any other and becoming smaller on average makes them more fit for that environment.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by ruined on Saturday July 05, 2025 @08:08PM (#44476588)
if you're interested in maintenance of the fishery, size reduction is a primary indicator of failure. so yes
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by hungmung on Saturday July 05, 2025 @07:02PM (#44476252)
> Is being bigger Platonically better than being smaller?

Maybe, most animals evolve towards larger sizes. Except on smallish islands, where they tend to become smaller.

Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by thaumasiotes on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:20PM (#44477552)
> Maybe, most animals evolve towards larger sizes.

This is not even a little bit true.

Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by masklinn on Sunday July 06, 2025 @07:19AM (#44479720)
> Maybe, most animals evolve towards larger sizes.

Animals tend towards whatever size lets them maximise survival. This is based on available niches and other selective pressures.

> Except on smallish islands, where they tend to become smaller.

Island syndrome leads to both gigantism and dwarfism.

Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by fpoling on Sunday July 06, 2025 @08:38AM (#44480270)
> Animals tend towards whatever size lets them maximise survival.

Evolution is a filter that removes unfit, it does not select the best fit. So a lot of mutations that slightly decreases fitness for the environment stay as they do not make an organism too unfit. This results in a gen pool diversity in a population that helps to survive if the environment changes as previously somewhat harmful mutations can be essential for survival in the new situation.

Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by thatguy0900 on Saturday July 05, 2025 @06:11PM (#44475992)
It's better if you want to eat them lol
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by bluGill on Saturday July 05, 2025 @06:24PM (#44476074)
Small fish generally taste better in my experience. Small of course implies younger, so we let the biger ones go as well as small ones - there is a too small to eat point.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by kulahan on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:20PM (#44477556)
In the sense that the gene pool is being unintentionally manipulated by humans, when the original goal was to try and leave it undisturbed to an extent.
Re:Cod Have Been Shrinking for Decades, Scientists Say They'... by wiseowise on Sunday July 06, 2025 @03:04AM (#44478484)
Yes. It is.