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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by gambiting on Saturday June 28, 2025 @11:19AM (#44405300)

Unfortunately, many of the old forums for various non-IT-related hobbies have disappeared and moved over to facebook groups and there is no alternative as such. Discord is great for anything related to software or hardware with computers, there are some fantastic communities, but if you are into cars or mountain biking or watches or fellwalking/hiking etc......you really don't have any alternative to facebook. I'm trying to never just passively browse the main feed because it very quickly turns into pure trash, but there are communities there that are worth participating there and which don't really have any other online space.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by aunty_helen on Saturday June 28, 2025 @11:24AM (#44405351)

Yes the death of forums is one of the huge hidden costs and another great reason to hate fb.

Now info you search for online about cars comes from forums that haven’t had a post in the last year, yet in 2009 someone asked a great question about part compatibility.

We need a pirate effort to exfiltrate this data back into the public domain.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by TeMPOraL on Saturday June 28, 2025 @12:01PM (#44405682)

Unfortunately we're facing a cultural issue here as well - people moved on from Facebook to Discord or private WhatsApp groups, and young would-be pirates see it as normal and good.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by whoisyc on Saturday June 28, 2025 @02:16PM (#44406877)

Limiting the spread of the information is a feature, not a bug. You don’t want others to take your 2009 forum post out of context and ridicule you in front of a million angry YouTube viewers.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by rchaud on Saturday June 28, 2025 @02:42PM (#44407061)

On a forum, "you" is an anonymous username, so ridicule is meaningless. It doesn't follow you into the real world.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by whoisyc on Saturday June 28, 2025 @03:22PM (#44407401)

Facebook is used to coordinate real world events. Think weekend hikes, dog shows, garage sales, you name it. If you have to hide your real world identity to post on a forum, then it will not be able to replace Facebook.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by lxgr on Saturday June 28, 2025 @11:44AM (#44405538)

> Discord is great for anything related to software or hardware with computers

No, even that is terrible compared to forums – it doesn't get indexed by search engines!

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by TeMPOraL on Saturday June 28, 2025 @12:13PM (#44405786)

Which, unfortunately, is the point.

This is a larger cultural issue. The general population finally got used to being on the Internet, and the Internet adapted to serve its needs and modes of thinking - which are predominantly social. Objective reality, information and access to it is of secondary importance (if even that) - what matters is socializing with friends and having experiences.

Unlike Facebook and Twitter, WhatsApp and Discord are the true social media - they work much like real-life interactions. So to join a topical group, or even know it exists, you literally have to know the right people. Don't have friends who are into something? Don't have friends? Tough luck. It's high school again, but the Internet is owned by jocks now.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by RHSeeger on Saturday June 28, 2025 @03:08PM (#44407291)

Discord is fine as a active chat medium. It is absolutely awful as an information store. Even beyond the "can't be indexed by search engines" (which is catastrophically bad all by itself), it's just horrible for dealing with any information that isn't part of an active combination _right now_.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by spacemadness on Saturday June 28, 2025 @11:47AM (#44405555)

Yes, this makes me sad how so many hobby groups are trapped within FB. It’s usually hobbies with an older demographic.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by qoez on Saturday June 28, 2025 @11:36AM (#44405449)

It's worth it to miss out on that information to delete your account. I don't have one and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by gambiting on Saturday June 28, 2025 @12:33PM (#44405989)

I don't know how you can confidently say so - I would have missed out on so many bike rides and car meets and so many things I learnt by being in the right communities by not being on Facebook, because they just aren't posted anywhere else.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by add-sub-mul-div on Saturday June 28, 2025 @12:22PM (#44405879)

We can always find words to justify being a follower instead of a leader. We shouldn't. Being in the space that the Eternal September has chosen to congregate to have access to the most hikers isn't a hard necessity.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by gambiting on Saturday June 28, 2025 @12:35PM (#44406007)

>>We can always find words to justify being a follower instead of a leader

I'm not sure what you mean by that in this context. Just like I have to be part of my local "nerdy" store to play MtG every Friday, I kinda have to be part of local MTB groups to know when they are riding. I could like you say, be a leader and organise my own rides I suppose? Is that what you mean? If so, then I'm sure you can see limitations to this approach.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by hoistbypetard on Saturday June 28, 2025 @12:47PM (#44406114)

I disagree about the goodness of discord (and facebook) compared to old style forums or (better yet) mailing lists with archives.

Searching the forum archives is much worse with facebook, slack or discord than it ever was with even the jankiest phpbb forum or mailman list. Hell, before they grew it up, Yahoo! groups were better from that perspective. And a big part of what made forums for either tech or non-tech hobbies so nice was the ability to search and reference prior discussions.

I was actually hopeful that "login with facebook" and "login with discord" would bring those more search-friendly alternatives back a little bit, but so far I haven't seen it.

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Re:Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos in your camer... by rchaud on Saturday June 28, 2025 @02:45PM (#44407083)

On forums you can search by username, by topic alone, inside of a subforum, or by text inside of a thread. That level of search granularity is by design so you aren't querying the entire database unnecessarily.

As a result it's far better than "omnisearch" options on social media that only sometimes surfaces what you were looking for.

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