Why?

And why gender, but not race?

Homies that want to smash change to chad mode and suddenly don't want to talk that gay homie shit around the girls. You'd be threatening each other with sloppy toppy, a girl will join and 1-2 guys will instantly turn into businessmen to impress her.

Why would race matter in this context? This is clearly about socio-sexual dynamics. Genders are the key differentiator.

Why aren't there also socio-racial dynamics?

Yes, what is this vibe change? So far I'm picking up:

* Single men don't feel compelled to be horndogs and show off and compete.

* Married men are tired of always doing everything with their wives.

* Possible gay interest?

* Something about model trains, apparently women ruin model trains?

Men in men-only spaces can be honest and open about their experiences with women, which includes being critical of women, without being shamed for it.

This is impossible in spaces where women are also present.

I guess that's true. Seems like loneliness is increased by people's habits of seeking sex, and seeking to talk about sex, and their expectations that others will do that.

I don't think race matters but clearly culture does. Ukranian or Somali spaces would not be what they are if just anyone could go. Even having to speak English or explain things to outsiders changes the dynamics entirely.

The person you're replying to seems to have constructed this elaborate scenario in their head where they're "one of the good ones" and is somewhere between unwilling and incapable of imagining men wanting to spend time with just other men some of the time. Apparently someone wanting this must be lonely, incapable of socializing with women, and offensive to others as a default.

This says a lot about that person, that they can't imagine men socializing any other way. I think they're making excuses for their own bad behavior.