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Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by seatac76 on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:16PM (#44053719)
That is an insane amount to hire Johnny Ive. Just to signal to the market that OpenAI is getting into hardware, what on earth could they be building towards. They’ve been writing some big checks off late, these costs will have to be justified soon enough.
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by zhobbs on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @02:19PM (#44054479)
Totally insane, $6.5B acquihire. But also, all stock deal and OpenAI appears to have an unlimited number of investors waiting to give them money if/when needed.
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by hexator on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:33PM (#44053915)
The obvious answer would be some sort of consumer AI assistant, like Siri but better.
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by lolinder on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:38PM (#44053983)
This is a bet that's as insane as the Apple car. They're going to try to get people to buy a specialized device from a company that isn't just a software company but really a B2B API company—the only successful consumer-facing product they have ever released was an accident, a tech demo that went viral.

And what exactly is that device going to do that the iPhone (and smartphones in general) can't already do with at a minimum a few small tweaks to the existing flagships?

In the right context vertical integration can make sense, but hardware is a big stretch for OpenAI right now. They haven't even really pinned down the consumer software angle yet.

Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by seatac76 on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @02:45PM (#44054785)
I mean for this kind of money and pedigree the obvious answer to me is kill the smartphone level tech.

10 mins I spent watching that weird video in third person dialogue no less, they better deliver something great.

Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by dbbk on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @03:03PM (#44054987)
They're not hiring Jonny. He's going to take over design, but basically as an independent contractor with LoveFrom.
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by mountainriver on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:37PM (#44053966)
I love how aggressive Sam is with this stuff. He’s very smart in this arena. I’m all about OpenAI creating new fun things
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by outside1234 on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:23PM (#44053801)
Or he thinks OpenAI is really only worth something in the $30B range and he is getting a steal while his currency is hot.
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by milkshakes on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:37PM (#44053964)
considering that the deal is "an all-stock" one, that would not be a great bet.
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by outside1234 on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @02:08PM (#44054363)
Its possible for Jony to think that it is worth more while Sam does not.

Or Jony to like the $6.5B headline, but realize that he is probably only getting $150M.

Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by jodydonetti on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:39PM (#44054010)
Acqui-hire startup -> Jony onboard -> new device with OpenAI exclusive features -> Windows Phone is back. /s (kinda)
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by rrauch on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:37PM (#44053958)
The first paragraph of the article mentions it's an all-stock deal. No checks where written for this.
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by empath75 on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @02:25PM (#44054548)
> $6.5 billion all-stock deal

It's 6.5 billion in monopoly money. OpenAI has an insane valuation right now, and they're using it to buy stuff with it, as they should.

Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by ljm on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:24PM (#44053815)
VCs have too much capital at hand and don't know how to deploy it all.

This is on the back of epic wealth inequality.

I don't know why Jony Ive is seen to be worth billions, but he's obviously not, he's just another shill in the ivory tower.

Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by joshstrange on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:27PM (#44053856)
> I don't know why Jony Ive is seen to be worth billions, but he's obviously not.

Agreed. If it was the only option it would have been worth it to Apple to pay him billions to _leave_. His last 5-10 years at Apple were marked by him ruining a number of products.

Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by mountainriver on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:35PM (#44053944)
VCs don’t have a ton of capital on hand right now, interest rates are high, investments are way down
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by SimianSci on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:46PM (#44054104)
Broadly, you're right, but again, there is an incredible amount of inequality at the moment, so while 90% of VCs might be strapped for cash, ther other 10% have so much that they are struggling to find worthy investment vehicles that can grow their money-pile. Its a dillema they are in because nothing can justify the volume of investment enough without a sufficiant potential for growth, so any venture that even hints at big enough return, will find itself flush with cash it wont realistically know what to do with.
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by ljm on Thursday May 22, 2025 @09:23AM (#44061819)
I've spoken to a small handful of investors who are all saying they have capital to deploy but don't know where. One of them in particular stepped away from AI but they were seeing OTT valuations for AI startups based on what other VCs were doing.
Re:OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive by owebmaster on Wednesday May 21, 2025 @01:23PM (#44053803)
That's 1% of OpenAI allegedly value