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Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by varispeed on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:24AM (#43568615)
I wonder how much more evidence American people need to see Trump for being a Russian asset and working against US interests.

We are in treason territory.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by dddrh on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:35AM (#43569393)
You could not have designed a more effective version of a “Manchurian Candidate” in my opinion.

In fact, this administration has been so effective and brazen that if you were to try and write this as fiction, the scope and scale of what is occurring would be deemed unbelievable and would require toning down for the audience.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by random42_ on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:29AM (#43568662)
People that support him don't care about evidence. It's a cult following.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by varispeed on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:41AM (#43569477)
Authorities focused on "classic" terrorism when monitoring online content and propaganda and got completely blindsided by the take over of the media.

I find it particularly interesting how many popular US media people disseminate provably false Kremlin propaganda, as if someone flipped a switch.

Fascinating times.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by energy123 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:29AM (#43570229)
They knew about it back in 2014 but Obama didn't do enough about it.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by gruez on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:17AM (#43569171)
>and working against US interests.

>We are in treason territory.

Are we just going to start throwing "treason" accusations whenever a political opponent does the wrong thing? Being anti-free trade? Hurts US hegemony and makes US consumers pay more. Treason. Being pro-free trade? Sells out hard working americans while enriching corporations. Treason.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by Bombthecat on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:30AM (#43568674)
Propaganda and lead poisoning did a number here.

It's the perfect storm.

I don't see an end to this

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by pc86 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:32AM (#43568693)
The best thing about your comment is you could be referring to Trump, or the GP. 9 out of 10 people who read your comment will say "hell yeah" and think you agree with them whether you do or not.

Brilliant.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by Bombthecat on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:36AM (#43568727)
The people who know what the effects of lead poisoning are, know :D
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by bloomingeek on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:35AM (#43568720)
Well, enough of some Americans elected a convicted felon to the Oval Office, so...
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by dmschulman on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:02AM (#43569837)
Russia noticeably absent from the global and per-country tariffs
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by ImJamal on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:33AM (#43570269)
Trump is allegedly planning on sanctions against Russia if they do not agree to his peace plan.

Trump just added some additional sanctions on Russia for helping the Houthis.

Sanctions seem worse than tariffs to me, but I'm not an expert.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-sanctions-russia-based-n...

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by varispeed on Thursday April 03, 2025 @11:01AM (#43570776)
He didn't add sanctions on Russia, but on people dealing with Russia - that's a different thing.

But notice how people talk now - Trump might say he is "planning" something against Russia and people take it as a proof that he is not an asset. They forget about concept of sacrificing something to gain advantage. If heat turns to much on Trump, they might let him disrupt something and then run propaganda that Trump isn't bent. Until he makes next move massively benefitting Putin.

Seems like they can be doing this over and over and general public will see it as Trump just navigating difficult geopolitical landscape and that we should "trust the process". etc.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by ImJamal on Thursday April 03, 2025 @02:53PM (#43573814)
I am not sure why you are calling this out seeing how many people are hypothesising what is going to happen in this thread (economy destroyed, USD no longer reserve currency, etc). At least we have actual words to base what I wrote unlike all the other theories being thrown out in this thread.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by rayiner on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:34AM (#43568704)
Oh FFS. Implementing Pat Buchanan and Bernie Sanders’ opposition to free trade is “treason.” You sound like Bill Kristol.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by varispeed on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:54AM (#43568903)
Sure you can wrap it in fancy words, but most people who understand tariffs can see it for what it is.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by rayiner on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:06AM (#43569038)
I’m not wrapping it in “fancy words.” I’m pointing out there is a real policy here, not something Trump made up to make Putin happy.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by pc86 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:31AM (#43568681)
I can fully understand how people on both the left and the right could have ideological differences with Trump, how they can hate the way he interacts with people, think he's picking unqualified cronies for high level jobs, etc. I disagree with the last one but I can at least see how a reasonable person would get to that conclusion.

"Trump is committing treason because he is instituting tariffs" or "Trump is a Russian asset" is not a position any reasonably intelligent person can come to without being blinded by partisanship. It's simply not a serious position to have.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by jeremyjh on Thursday April 03, 2025 @08:39AM (#43568754)
If Trump were a Russian asset, what could he possibly do to advance their interests more than what he is already doing? Hell, he is running Putin's playbook on Canada and Greenland. Did you vote for that?

NATO is already over because none of our allies can expect Trump to honor our treaty obligations.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by throwaway17422 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:41AM (#43569482)
Regardless of what his intentions might be which are all speculations as far as I'm concerned, he managed to convince Europe to rearm in 1 month, which is a net positive for Europe and America (assuming America still sees that as a positive) and a massive blow for Russia.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by lostmsu on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:08AM (#43569942)
How about stopping to supply Ukraine with weapons?
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by vel0city on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:38AM (#43570376)
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by lostmsu on Thursday April 03, 2025 @12:09PM (#43571783)
Considering there's nothing stopping him really, what does "trying" mean exactly?
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by vel0city on Thursday April 03, 2025 @12:53PM (#43572414)
By that I mean he did it, briefly, then probably got a lot of push back internally and rolled it back. The whole event seemed like a chance to drum up an excuse to drop support for Ukraine, but ultimately wasn't enough of a reason to present.

I don't really see another way to take that. Have you watched the full exchange on it?

And I mean his first impeachment was because of his impounding of aid to Ukraine.

Acting like he hasn't been working towards killing support for Ukraine is ignoring his actions and his own statements.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by marcusverus on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:29AM (#43569323)
> If Trump were a Russian asset, what could he possibly do to advance their interests more than what he is already doing?

Rhetoric is a poor substitute for actual evidence.

Many moons ago, the fringe right used a similar argument to imply that Barack Obama was pro-ISIS. After his hasty withdrawal from Iraq, ISIS filled the power vacuum. Their "caliphate" grew for years and years, with no significant intervention from the US! At the time there wasn't a great answer to the question "If Obama were pro-ISIS, what could he possibly do to advance their interests more than he already has?". Yet (hopefully) we all know that this was simply bad faith, conspiratorial rhetoric. He was obviously not pro-ISIS, and there was no evidence whatsoever that he was. So how could people possibly have entertained such an idea? Easy--they already hated Barack Obama, so they were willing to give the conspiracy theory the benefit of the doubt.

Do yourself a favor and apply the old tried and true standard: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It'll save you a good deal of embarrassment.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by varispeed on Thursday April 03, 2025 @11:42AM (#43571337)
Have you seen Obama disseminating ISIS propaganda?
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by marcusverus on Thursday April 03, 2025 @02:40PM (#43573673)
Your conspiracy theory isn't coherent enough to be implied. Make the argument.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by jeremyjh on Thursday April 03, 2025 @05:10PM (#43575459)
Trump and his administration do spread Kremlin falsehoods and talking points. This was a major sticking point in Gabbard's confirmation. For instance, she spread the false claim that Ukraine was developing bioweapons that are a threat to Russia. Trump himself repeated the false claim that Zelensky has a poor approval numbers and is preventing elections because he's a dictator. Trump also said Ukraine started the conflict. In his last admin he said that "Crimeans want to be Russian".
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by marcusverus on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:31PM (#43577735)
>Gabbard

Tulsi isn't Trump.

> Zelensky

Trump quite reasonably called Zelensky a dictator. Ukraine can legally skip elections while under martial law, sure. But seeing as Zelensky has the power to end martial law at any time, he is single-handedly preventing Ukranian elections, depriving the people of Ukraine of their voice during what is potentially the most pivotal span of time in Ukranian history. Surely you still call Putin a dictator, even though he attained his status without directly violating the constitution?

> Trump also said Ukraine started the conflict.

Are you referring to that time Trump uttered the words "you never should have started it" in one of his word clouds while speaking to a journalist? That is evidence that he is in thrall to the Russians?

> In his last admin he said that "Crimeans want to be Russian".

The vast majority of them are Russian, ethnically and linguistically. All polling prior to the 2014 invasion showed that a significant majority would support annexation by Russia. Don't worry, you can know this fact--and even repeat it out loud!--without the bad men in the Kremlin gaining control over your mind.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by mopsi on Thursday April 03, 2025 @11:56PM (#43578179)
> But seeing as Zelensky has the power to end martial law at any time, he is single-handedly preventing Ukranian elections

He doesn't. The President of Ukraine can only propose the imposition or termination of martial law to the parliament. Nothing happens unless the parliament approves the proposal. In February, the Ukrainian parliament even adopted a resolution to remind the dumbasses calling Zelenskyy a dictator of this fact.

> All polling prior to the 2014 invasion showed that a significant majority would support annexation by Russia.

Support for joining Russia was 23% in a 2013 poll, down from 33% in 2011. The majority opinion (53%) was that Crimea should remain as it was, an autonomous region within Ukraine.

  In your opinion, what should the status of Crimea be?   2013   2011
  -----------------------------------------------------   ----   ----
  Autonomy in Ukraine (as today)                            53     49
  Crimean Tatar autonomy within Ukraine                     12      4
  Common oblast of Ukraine                                   2      6
  Crimea should be separated and given to Russia            23     33
  Don't know                                                10      8
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by marcusverus on Saturday April 05, 2025 @07:17PM (#43597604)
He is preserving power by delaying elections, and his party (who control the parliament) is preserving their majority by delaying elections. Many a dictatorship has been kicked off and maintained by strictly legal means with the help of a complicit legislature.

Ukraine should hold elections. Delaying them is bad. This is the pro-democracy position. Calling it "Russian propaganda" is nuts. Pretending that Trump's support of this position is evidence that he is controlled by the Russians is literally insane.

Fair enough--the one poll funded by the American government (through the International Republican Institute) found that Crimea wanted to stay in Ukraine, after 5+ UN polls found 60+% supporting annexation for several years in a row.

Is citing the UN data evidence of Russian mind control? No. Arguing otherwise is insane!

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by mopsi on Saturday April 05, 2025 @08:38PM (#43598002)
Just yesterday, a Russian missile strike on apartment buildings in Kryvyi Rih killed 19 people (incl 9 children) and injured 72. It was followed by drone strikes that targeted rescue workers. CNN article: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/04/americas/ukraine-strike-z... Police bodycam footage: https://bsky.app/profile/kateinkharkiv.bsky.social/post/3lm3...

Strikes like these occur daily and have become increasingly common in recent months. Holding mass gatherings under such conditions is utterly irresponsible, and any elections held in this atmosphere lack legitimacy because many voters are simply afraid to visit polling stations. Not to mention the millions of people in occupied territories who are completely unable to cast their ballots.

The narrative about Ukrainian elections - especially coming from Russia, which hasn't had free elections since the early 1990s - is indeed pure propaganda. With their progress on the frontlines stalled, this is nothing more than a transparent attempt to undermine Ukrainian unity by diverting attention to internal infighting and potentially replacing the current government with a less functional one. Zelenskyy's main political rivals share the broad consensus that elections should be held only after the war.

Ukraine's situation is a textbook example of why many (if not most) constitutions include provisions for postponing elections during wars and other emergencies.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by marcusverus on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @10:29PM (#43640071)
> Holding mass gatherings under such conditions is utterly irresponsible

Yet they don't ban vital gatherings, like concerts[0]. They only ban elections, for which large gatherings are hardly necessary.

> Zelenskyy's main political rivals share the broad consensus that elections should be held only after the war.

His actual main rival's party was banned. Now you see the leaders of the remaining parties toeing the line as sign of robust democracy? Is this a joke?

https://concert.ua/en/catalog/all-cities/concerts

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by actionfromafar on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:44AM (#43569535)
Obama could have invited ISIS to talks with his security advisor. He could have made any sanctions on them toothless. I'm sure there's more.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by alex1138 on Friday April 04, 2025 @11:35AM (#43583961)
At least some of his appointments make perfect sense as well (Tulsi, RFK, Bhattacharya)
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by lucasRW on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:14AM (#43569133)
The "Russian collusion" hoax has been debunked by justice after thousands of hours of hearings and investigations. It was based on a fake "Steele dossier" commissioned by the Clintons.

It's been several years, dude, time to get updated on the situation.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by chipotle_coyote on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:39AM (#43569460)
You are spreading disinformation. The FBI investigations into Russia collusion were separate from Mueller's special counsel investigations, Mueller's work did not refer to the Steele Dossier at all.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigati...

Mueller's key findings include

- Uncovering extensive criminal activity on the part of Trump associates

- that Russia engaged in extensive attacks on the US election system in 2016

- that there were numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign

- that there were multiple episodes in which Trump engaged in deliberate obstruction during the investigation

If you are taking Trump's "no collusion, complete exoneration" at his word, understand that he was lying. The report literally used the phrase "does not exonerate", and the only reason Trump was not indicted was because of the DOJ policy that you can't indict a sitting president.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by lucasRW on Friday April 04, 2025 @04:15AM (#43579543)
Wait, all you have to support the extraordinary claim that "Trump is a KGB agent" is that... Russian bots with 50 followers retweeted some pro-Trump posts ? Seriously ? That's ALL that the anti-Trump administration could find after years of trying to nail him ?
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by jprd on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:35AM (#43569401)
Without the Steele dossier, "Krasnov" has seen lots of attention. Now stir that with the absolute bizarro behavior of Trump around Russia/Putin.

There may not be hard evidence of a fire, but there is so much smoke I choke on it.

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Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by 52-6F-62 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:59AM (#43569772)
Don’t smear kids in the hall this way. You realize they are Canadian, right?
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by willcipriano on Thursday April 03, 2025 @10:09AM (#43569953)
I'll have someone else respond for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOM
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by lucasRW on Friday April 04, 2025 @04:13AM (#43579529)
It's not bizarre, it's pretty much in line with the stance that the West has had with Russia since the 90s, even with Bush junior in the early 2000s, before the rise of the neocons.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by stef25 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:52AM (#43569659)
On the Sam Harris podcast you can listen to a great interview with Anne Applebaum that goes in to some detail about the relationship between various US and RU politicians. There's a lot more to it than the Steele dossier.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by billy99k on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:08AM (#43569064)
So no mention of Bernie Sanders spending his honeymoon in Russia or countless Democrats accepting money from the Chinese?

Let's not forget where this Russian asset idea started: Hillary Clinton colluded with a Russian spy to investigate Trump when he was running for president.

This combined with her running her own mail server and sending government emails through it should have landed her at least in jail for a couple of years.

But lets focus on someone trying to avoid war with Russia at all costs and attempting to make peace.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by tpierce89 on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:24AM (#43569249)
You're using "whataboutism" to point fingers and say one side is worse because of this or that. I could do the same thing and say Hillary's emails don't matter because Mike Waltz is out there using Gmail to conduct official business. https://www.axios.com/2025/04/01/mike-waltz-signal-gmail-sec...

To solve this we will all have to come together and accept that nobody on either side of American Politics are on the side of the working class. Instead of pointing fingers at democrats or republicans it is beyond time for us as Americans to come together and vote in people that will work for us as a collective regardless of what political affiliations they have.

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by yakshaving_jgt on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:21AM (#43569211)
> This combined with her running her own mail server and sending government emails through it should have landed her at least in jail for a couple of years.

I'm guessing you're cool with the current regime's handling of sensitive information, yeah?

Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by ezst on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:44AM (#43569534)
See, that's what a 2-parties system does to one's brain. Trump can be bad, and many other things can be bad at the same time, without causation. If that's enough to distract from the bigger picture, you do not qualify as a voter.
Re:US Administration announces 34% tariffs on China – 20% on EU by mcphage on Thursday April 03, 2025 @09:48AM (#43569597)
> But lets focus on someone trying to avoid war with Russia at all costs and attempting to make peace.

So instead you want to give Putin the population of Ukraine to send in to get slaughtered as soldiers for his next invasion, and also send in Americans to get killed in Canada, Mexico, and/or Greenland? A++ very peaceful no notes.