Okay, buy me an Android then.

If you bought an iPhone you could buy an Android.

But I don't want an Android. So if you desire for me to use Android, buy me an Android.

Advice is not desire. I advise you to keep batteries in your fire alarm, but I don't personally care enough to buy you any.

Didn't really sound like advice.

And thats we are different. I would.

Switching ecosystems is a huge pain, I started with iPhone and eventually moved to Android and back again to iPhone. When you use a lot of the Apple/Google Services, it's not really easy to just switch over

It's only Apple that does this lock-in thing, IME. Google also has services, but they're not as important or inseparable.

I guess it's easy if a person cares enough about it? I'm the relative PITA in my family because I prefer to put everything on a paper calendar and mostly use my phone for Signal, iMessage, occasional email, some photos, and internet, including toe-dips into this forum as my social media engagement. I'm in my 40s, grew up with a Commodore64, and am disenchanted with computers now (while still using them for a few things- life's messy, and that's okay). Surveillance capitalism is more of a threat to much of what I care about (includes partcipatory democracy and mutual aid), and it makes sense to both push back and find a better path.

Humans have done okay for a hundred thousand years+ without computers, with some dark ages here and there when people get greedy.

I don’t trust Android.

What do you not trust of AOSP? How can you trust a proprietary closed-source OS more than an open-source one?

I don’t blindly trust Apple either, but I believe enough of what they say and consider the gaps when they don’t say something. They fight things like the UK E2E encryption requests… but also, having owned both Android and Apple devices, and managing my own iOS devices and the Android devices my parents own, I definitely feel like the iOS devices are more secure and less prone to bad actors via App Store. I think safari is more anonymizing than chrome.

The (US) government already has too much access to us, and I think Android is more open to them than iOS. The government has cameras in public and access to our banking data, I’m not gonna protect myself from them by choosing one platform more than the other, or one bank more than the other.

What I don’t want, though, is to be annoyed to death or scammed. My choice is more front loaded by that consideration. If I find out that Apple accedes to backdoors though, I’d have to live without both Android and iOS.

Accedes is a good word, I don't think I've ever seen it before.

the root of accede makes "Accessible", too; that which enables one "to enter".

Android isn't AOSP, and Android isn't open source.

It's safe to assume that every large tech company is spying on everything you do - including Apple. (Remember they're legally required to do so in the UK, and probably in more countries but it only leaked in the UK)

Android is more trustworthy not because of that but because it lets you install apps that haven't been approved by corporate overlords first.

Honestly with Apple not producing folding phones I think in a few generations everybody will have naturally moved to Android

This is such a weird take. Folding phones are a tiny market and they all have considerable durability downsides.

Also, if the market did shift Apple could easily build one. I’m sure they’ve prototyped a few already.

People said the same thing about bigger screens years ago

No larger screen has ever had issues with permanent damage from regular use. They just aren’t a good fit for most people in their current durability state. Anyone who totally baby’s their phone can use them, but that’s about it. Also, they’re pretty much all in an extreme price bracket. You could buy a small tablet and a regular flagship phone for the price of one of the galaxy folds.

I have one and constantly drop it and its still in perfect condition. Not sure what you mean

> Not sure what you mean

Surely you jest? There’s oodles of reporting on how delicate the flexible screen is. Fingernails can forever leave scratches on it. There’s plenty of reports of people having their screen randomly break despite no noticeable physical damage. Dust/dirt can get in the hinge and cause damage as well, despite advancements in the hinge design. It’s better now of course, but the physical limitations are still there.

Not sure. Maybe because I have the latest one? Google pixel 9 pro fold

People didn't like the OG Xbox "Duke" controller. They complained left and right.

I'm a tall adult male. Every other controller is tiny to me.

My max phone size is just about right on the ProMax iPhones. They should be a little smaller - but only a little, like 1-2 mm width. I've got big hands, and I love a big screen.

If only folding phones weren't prohibitively expensive, fragile, and most notably completely pointless...

They're basically going to replace your phone and tablets. But people have a hard time seeing into the future

Will that be before or after flying cars?

I don't want one unless they can make the screen completely perfect where it folds. Which they won't be able to.

It is perfect already, what do you mean? Go try one in a store its not hard

I don't need to do that, despite it not being hard to do, because I know that would be a waste of time because I can clearly see from the pictures in the reviews that it is far from perfect. You can definitely see the fold.

It would piss me off no end watching videos with a line down the middle.

Also, knowing that every time I bend it, I'm one step closer to the screen failing.

No you cant see the fold, only if you look at it from an angle.

Try it if you dont believe me. Or read any review, they will tell you the same

huh? Those things are a novelty. I may be aging into fuddy-duddy land, though. If I keep using a mobile phone, I like the smaller ones that easily fit in one hand and most pockets, I want it to last a decade or more (this iphone is from 2018, I think), and I like it just powerful enough for communication, browsing, and photos. Done with games.

To try to see another view, though, if the tech is there and not too harmful (that's relative- I think our venture into computer-land is immensely harmful in many ways) and durable enough, it seems nice to protect the screen? Except if grit gets between the glass?