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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by junon on Saturday March 01, 2025 @02:27AM (#43216845)
I hate Trump because I'm not propagandized. I no longer have any patience for pro-Trump rhetoric tbh. He's going to get a lot of people killed.

Embarrassed to be an American today. You're on the wrong side of history.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by aparticulate on Saturday March 01, 2025 @03:22AM (#43217226)
Two avoidable new wars under Biden. Insane departure from Afhaganistan. Was Trump in any way worse in foreign policy? I thought we returned to civil adults in the room again! I no longer have any patience for any non populist Democrats. Not serious political thinkers in any way.

We all saw when the DNC champagne socialists turned their their nose at Palestinian activists, this is not a serious Left wing movement by any intl standard. It’s overflow parking for elitethink. What good recent policy is even proposed? There’s nothing. Look elsewhere for inspiration because the USA Left is bankrupt intellectually

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by amluto on Saturday March 01, 2025 @03:39AM (#43217319)
> Two avoidable new wars under Biden.

Which wars?

Ukraine could have been trivially avoided by Russia, as Ukraine did nothing to provoke the war except perhaps by the mere fact of its existence as a an independent country. But I assume you mean “avoidable by Biden.” How would Biden have avoided it?

What’s the second? Gaza? I give Biden approximately zero credit for competent handling of the situation, but that war was started by a surprise attack by one non-US party against another non-US party. Nobody asked the US’s opinion. I very much doubt that the US could have prevented that war by announcing a desire to annex Gaza.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by matwood on Sunday March 02, 2025 @02:14AM (#43228130)
Those are Russian bot talking points. Best to just ignore. Just like saying Ukraine started the current conflict and not so subtly removing all responsibility from Russia.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by aparticulate on Sunday March 02, 2025 @04:53PM (#43235594)
Good of you to get the correct talking points back on track! Curious how well this strategy will work? Is there a single Pro Russian perspectives allowed in a critique of a war we pay for? Almost seems like a problematic monoculture. Alas this is primarily a tech site but I would expect SOME debate.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by junon on Saturday March 01, 2025 @03:28AM (#43217255)
Holy shit I don't even know where to begin with you people. Whataboutism is wild, you can't see dictatorship staring you in the fucking face.

The US is doomed if you seriously believe the crap you spew out onto the internet.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by aparticulate on Saturday March 01, 2025 @03:31AM (#43217275)
“whataboutism” is a weak and recent phrase that means literally nothing. Please engage with specifics.

Most Americans would not agree with a 1939 “ascendant dictator in America” narrative and yet you do. I wonder how the “you people” strategy works in your brain? I do not think of HN audience as separate to “my” people. Silly that you do the inverse.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by johnnyanmac on Saturday March 01, 2025 @09:25AM (#43219500)
>Most Americans would not agree with a 1939 “ascendant dictator in America” narrative and yet you do.

Yes, I'm sure of that. Just as Germans in 1939 would also not agree with an "Ascendent dictator of Germany". `People are pretty good a rejecting inconvinent realities when they're moral compass is on the line.

>I do not think of HN audience as separate to “my” people.

And this is just a dishonest argument. Let's not play coy, thank you.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by aparticulate on Sunday March 02, 2025 @05:08PM (#43235722)
Fascist prez didn't really ring well with USA voters during Kamala loss so I expect "you" people to just kind of burn out on the whole strategy. Simply the most likely scenario. The majority of the US voted for a fascist? Just reeks of midwit thinking to most people.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by goatlover on Saturday March 01, 2025 @02:14PM (#43222599)
People are waking up now to the reality Trump is an aspiring autocrat. His core base might be so blinded by the cult of personality that they will follow a dictator, but the rest of us won't.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by aparticulate on Sunday March 02, 2025 @05:08PM (#43235729)
Quite a conspiracy theory you have there. Wake up sheeple!
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by bdangubic on Sunday March 02, 2025 @05:14PM (#43235780)
some of us are woke :) we looked at all his living years, he’s been a public figure his entire life so easy to review his entire life&legacy. upon this review one can only conclude that he was sent down by God from heavens - a living messiah :) all ends up well as long as it is in his hands
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by aparticulate on Sunday March 02, 2025 @05:15PM (#43235802)
kind of a schizopost?
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by saagarjha on Saturday March 01, 2025 @05:18AM (#43217880)
Intellectually bankrupt seems better than the "civil adults in the room" that are the very topic of this thread.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by aparticulate on Sunday March 02, 2025 @05:01PM (#43235663)
Biden 2020 was supposed to be civility prez, I don't think anybody thinks Trump is civil? Zelenskyy personality cult did need a dressing down but I also think it was a piece of a performance art, in all likelihood.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by goatlover on Saturday March 01, 2025 @02:12PM (#43222573)
It's wild seeing life imitating art, but the recent Civil War movie had the sitting president serving his 3rd term as to what probably caused 19 states to secede, and Trump has talked about somehow finding a way to serve a third term. One could argue that's just typical Trump bluster, like him telling people they won't have to vote again, or blue states might disappear in year. But I'm becoming more convinced he actual intends to do these things.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by JPKab on Sunday March 02, 2025 @12:45AM (#43227782)
BluAnon in full effect I see.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by goatlover on Sunday March 02, 2025 @01:17AM (#43227906)
Which part, the Alex Garland movie, or the things Trump has done the past 40 days?
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by NicoJuicy on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @06:34PM (#43274280)
Euh, 6 January and letting them free. That's exactly what Trump is signalling. I'll be your get out of jail card.