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Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by ahartmetz on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:34AM (#43203621)
I think power users are the type of users who can be bothered to install a browser that supports the features that they want (and doesn't implement the misfeatures that they don't want) ;)
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by MSFT_Edging on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:03AM (#43205146)
This requires a proper alternative to continue to exist. Firefox users already have to make a lot of concessions(i know, i'm one of them). With how Mozilla management is running, we're at risk of the only real alternative being mismanaged into oblivion.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by Akronymus on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:50AM (#43205538)
I am cautiously optimistic for ladybird. But itll take quite a bit longer to become viable, sadly.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by Boldened15 on Saturday March 01, 2025 @01:46PM (#43222287)
I hope they change the name of the browser at some point, it sounds vaguely promiscuous (maybe because "ladyboy" is the closest word to it). One reason Chrome started taking off in popularity is because tech enthusiasts appreciated its speed and made their friends/relatives download it. Harder to imagine telling my parents to download something called "Ladybird"...
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by pseudalopex on Sunday March 02, 2025 @09:45AM (#43230944)
What do you call small beetles which eat aphids?[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccinellidae

Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by account42 on Monday March 03, 2025 @05:57AM (#43240530)
I don't share GP's word association but a possible answer to your question is in your own URL: Coccinella.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by alberto-m on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:40AM (#43203665)
Yes, but there seems to be a growing hiatus between the tools used by power users and normal ones. Fifteen years ago everyone had a PC with Firefox, now this browser has a marginal market share, and even personal computers are starting to be a second-class platform, the focus being phones. And products used by a minority tend to be less supported – as shown by the increasing number of sites that don't support Firefox.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by CalRobert on Friday February 28, 2025 @05:01AM (#43203837)
Until sites block them completely, which will be easier with attestation
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by viraptor on Friday February 28, 2025 @05:44AM (#43204132)
It's already been trivial. There's a few sites showing you a special message or denying access if you block ads. uBlock doesn't really help here that much and if they tried, the issue is very asymmetric - it's much easier to update the site than to patch it again.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by tgsovlerkhgsel on Friday February 28, 2025 @05:58AM (#43204253)
So far, most of these sites that try to exclude adblocker users don't detect uBO on Firefox.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by somenameforme on Friday February 28, 2025 @07:45AM (#43205016)
Most anti-adblock also fails on Brave. Those that don't can generally be sidestepped with literally two clicks to disable scripts. The remaining few require substantially more tweaking (generally disabling a specific script while allowing others to run) which is outside the domain of most people, but still viable.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by viraptor on Friday February 28, 2025 @01:55PM (#43209024)
Marketshare. People don't care that much.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by TimTheTinker on Friday February 28, 2025 @10:10AM (#43206453)
You may have heard G. Michael Hopf's famous quote: Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.

I think we may be advancing to another step in that cycle with software development. Strong, principled software companies created good times in the late 2000s and 2010s, now good times have created software company leaders who are less principled, and the hard times are beginning. And eventually, after the hard times have gone on for long enough, principled leaders will hopefully emerge and create good times again.

That being said:

- I really admire the thinking and moral aptitude that resulted in the Oxide Principles page[0]. Oxide and 37signals[1] are two examples of very principled companies that are keeping good times rolling in their respective fields, and both of them do a ton to support open source software.

- And, there is nothing like ad revenue to accelerate corruption of good principles in software companies that handle user data -- to the extent that I wonder if it's in the same moral category as government officials accepting bribes.

[0] https://oxide.computer/principles

[1] https://37signals.com/

Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by teddyh on Friday February 28, 2025 @11:43AM (#43207629)
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by HPsquared on Friday February 28, 2025 @11:03AM (#43207137)
The trouble is, it's hard to say how long the "bad times" arc will last.