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Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by oefrha on Saturday November 30, 2024 @11:08PM (#42286118)
That’s laughably wrong. Exclusive distribution rights are probably enforced more strictly in the U.S. than anywhere else in the world. They are governed by contract law. In addition, many product categories need to be demonstrated as safe to the right licensing agencies before being sold, not after.
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by walterbell on Sunday December 01, 2024 @12:10AM (#42286352)
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by oefrha on Sunday December 01, 2024 @12:16AM (#42286374)
That first sale has to be legal for the subsequent resales to be legal.
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by walterbell on Sunday December 01, 2024 @12:36AM (#42286454)
https://www.finnegan.com/en/insights/articles/u-s-supreme-co...

> U.S. Supreme Court Holds that Books Printed and Sold Abroad May Be Freely Resold in the U.S. Because the Copyrights Are Exhausted Under the First-Sale Doctrine

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by oefrha on Sunday December 01, 2024 @12:50AM (#42286499)
Now do sale of region-free DVD players in the U.S.

In any case, it’s perfectly legal for me to make and sell a geo-locked device in another country, and it is the importer’s problem if fails to work elsewhere. That doesn’t tend to happen with physical books, obviously.

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by walterbell on Sunday December 01, 2024 @12:57AM (#42286522)
Post-sale disabling of inverter devices is different than lack of support. The Supreme Court case on textbooks arose from profits on textbook arbitrage. New device-related caselaw will depend on a plaintiff that makes enough from device arbitrage to fund a lawsuit.
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by ImPostingOnHN on Sunday December 01, 2024 @09:09AM (#42288518)
The sale was legal in that neither the seller nor the buyer committed any criminal actions.

It sounds like Sol-Ark would have preferred that Deye not sold the products, and may even be able to sue Deye, but nobody illegally acquired anything.

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by echoangle on Sunday December 01, 2024 @05:12AM (#42287489)
> That’s laughably wrong. Exclusive distribution rights are probably enforced more strictly in the U.S. than anywhere else in the world. They are governed by contract law.

But that’s an issue between the manufacturer and the distributors which can then sue each other for breach of contract, right? The “authorized reseller” thing shouldn’t matter to the end consumer, as soon as I have the product, it’s as legitimate as every other purchase.

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by anon84873628 on Sunday December 01, 2024 @02:11PM (#42290042)
I agree that it should be worked out between the manufacturer and distributor. But the idea that "it’s as legitimate as every other purchase" is flawed.

Let's say a guy in China buys the product from Deye, who stipulates under Chinese law that this is only for use in China and not authorized for export. The guy sells it on to you in the US anyway (so let's call him a "scammer" for violating law and misrepresenting the product to you, and innocent consumer looking for a good deal).

Why should Deye respect your rights at all and not brick the device? What rights should you have under Chinese law? If they don't brick the device, how can they disincentivize the scammers at scale? Sure you can say they should prosecute and rely on the deterrent aspect of the penal system, but that is not really going to be effective.

Basically it boils down to what rights the victims of scammers and criminals have. If you unknowingly bought stolen diamonds, what rights do you have when the original owner comes knocking?

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by account42 on Monday December 02, 2024 @05:43AM (#42294877)
The real scam was selling the devices at vastly different prices in China vs. the US in the first place.
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by yuliyp on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @09:23PM (#42324181)
The analogy to theft is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Let's say it was a textbook that also had a label saying it was only to be sold in India. Would the US publisher have a right to steal such a book from someone in the U.S. that had it?