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Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by Shank on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:05AM (#41471555)
> Websites are only blocked when they are found to host malicious content, such as copyright infringements, online gambling, or pornography

So I guess pornography is illegal in Malaysia?

I guess this is a great time for Malaysian users to switch to DoH.

Edit: Yes. Wikipedia:

> Pornography is illegal in Malaysia with fines of up to RM10,000 for owning or sharing pornographic materials

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by harrygeez on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:18AM (#41471615)
I'm Malaysian. They even messed up DoH for the popular DNS providers like Google and Cloudflare. I think they are routing 1.1.1.1 to their own DNS, so when you try to connect to DoH you get SSL_ERR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN. The only option it seems is to VPN or play the cat and mouse game now to find a DNS that hasn't been rerouted yet
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by defrost on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:26AM (#41471639)
You might get some joy from using Portmaster (windows OS) and|or the Foundation for Applied Privacy

https://wiki.safing.io/en/Portmaster/App/DNSConfiguration

https://applied-privacy.net/services/dns/

There are non standard transports for DNS via non standard providers | DNS proxies - this tool and that foundation are a start.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by acheong08 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @04:42AM (#41472502)
Where are you? My DNS seems to work perfectly fine right now in Penang (with VPN off).

It’s sad that democracies are copying the playbook of China. Will definitely be using v2ray/X-ray while here

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by kelnos on Saturday September 07, 2024 @05:29AM (#41472737)
> It’s sad that democracies are copying...

"Democracy" is a bit of a red herring here. Democracy doesn't mean the government can't censor you or restrict what information or media you can consume. Democracy just means that the voters have consented to whatever legal framework is in place, and to whatever their leaders want to do within that framework.

And that's the thing: in many democracies around the world, if there was a referendum on the law to blocking copyright infringement, online gambling, or pornography at the ISP level, I think many would pass that law.

(Certainly there are "democracies" out there that only pay lip service to the concept, and have fixed elections and repression of dissent or opposition. I'm not talking about those.)

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by ProtoAES256 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @07:47AM (#41473348)
Sarawak here (on unifi). My network uses self setup multi DNS path with enforcing encryption so no biggie but I tried some nonetheless. Quad 8, 1 are fine atm, while Quad 9 traceroute returned !X.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by harrygeez on Saturday September 07, 2024 @08:53AM (#41473656)
can you share a little on your setup?
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by ProtoAES256 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:32AM (#41473860)
router DNS redir to pihole(Not the shitey FiberHome) -> pihole to internal(bind9 plain local to Adguard Proxy DoQ) -> self hosted tunneled whitelist DNS quicdoq DoQ, Adguard DNS DoQ (upstream quad 101, others.)
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by harrygeez on Saturday September 07, 2024 @03:26PM (#41475861)
I have a similar setup, it will not be immune if they start implementing in your area. They were rolling out by areas before they reversed course. Your upstream will stop working unless you proxy it through another network
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by ProtoAES256 on Sunday September 08, 2024 @12:01AM (#41478122)
It is proxied towards a machine outside of Malaysia (A machine I've setup elsewhere). So yeah.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by harrygeez on Sunday September 08, 2024 @03:00PM (#41482334)
Even now that they have reversed it I'm now determined to find a way to do this the cheapest way possible
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by ProtoAES256 on Monday September 09, 2024 @12:55AM (#41485559)
Yeah, given the gomen track record, I won't be lowering the defenses anytime soon. Good luck to you on your path to it!
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by harrygeez on Saturday September 07, 2024 @05:06AM (#41472612)
I'm in PJ. It seems that they have reversed the move after wide media coverage, claiming that it there has been a "confusion"
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by eptcyka on Saturday September 07, 2024 @11:24AM (#41474411)
Are they rerouting traffic to port 443 and 853?
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by seungwoolee518 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:13AM (#41471593)
My country (Korea, South) is also prohibited to get pornography service. (And they also terminate TLS using TLS HELLO)

So, DoH should be work fine for now, but they'll (gov.) terminate HTTPS (or TLS) connection ASAP.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by christophilus on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:22AM (#41471628)
The only hotel I remember from my visit to South Korea (20 years ago) had a whole bookcase full of porno DVDs in the lobby. Were they just breaking the law in plain view?
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by seungwoolee518 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:31AM (#41471661)
There are some movies out there (but it's not a porn.) as Ero(tic)-Movie.

It's legal, but it's not a porn.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by kijin on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:59AM (#41471782)
There are conditions a producer must meet to make their wares legal.

Same as why a lot of Japanese people seem to have pixelated genitals. ;)

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by csomar on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:32AM (#41471668)
People break the law all the time, it's up to the government to enforce it and many times the government is unable to do that. See here in the case of Malaysia, it's not that Porn was legal, it's that they weren't competent enough to restrict it or know about DNS things.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by 38 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:46AM (#41471722)
You can spoof the TLS Hello since at least 2021
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by HeatrayEnjoyer on Saturday September 07, 2024 @06:51AM (#41473096)
> My country (Korea, South) is also prohibited to get pornography service.

Why? I've never heard of a non-Islamist nation banning content as benign as porn.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by tamirzb on Saturday September 07, 2024 @07:40AM (#41473315)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_laws_by_region

It's really not that rare even for non-Muslim countries, especially in Asia

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by timomaxgalvin on Saturday September 07, 2024 @08:20AM (#41473504)
Is porn benign?
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by Biganon on Saturday September 07, 2024 @12:08PM (#41474660)
No, and neither is refined sugar. Your point?
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by Muromec on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:02AM (#41473706)
It's a thing of deprived bourgeoisie. So are drugs, alcohol and having a personal car.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by Muromec on Saturday September 07, 2024 @08:54AM (#41473670)
Ukraine still has soviet-era law criminalizing possession, distribution and production of porn. It's only enforced against local producers, but it's a thing.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by HeatrayEnjoyer on Monday September 16, 2024 @09:16AM (#41555755)
Unexpected! Ukraine produces some of the most prominent studios and actors.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by inferiorhuman on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:08AM (#41473734)
Pornography was broadly illegal in the UK through the 1980s. It's still illegal in the Vatican, which is about as far from an "Islamist" country as you can get.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by seungwoolee518 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:36AM (#41473875)
So, they're not blocking only porn. They're blocking a wide range of sites with various reasons - for example: selling illegal drugs (including mental, abortion drugs), copyrighted sites (torrent, etc), praise about north korea, etc...

When they've started to terminate TLS, the reason was to terminate illegally shared webtoon (web cartoon) sites.

For more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_South_K...

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by CAP_NET_ADMIN on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:07AM (#41471563)
Countries always fighting the most important battles :eyeroll:
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by stackghost on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:10AM (#41471578)
Porn is just the justification. It's easy to find something repugnant on whatever streaming video site and then start with the "protect the children" nonsense.

The real issue is always control.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by RandomThoughts3 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:16AM (#41471605)
Backward countries being backward. The main flaw of modern liberal societies is that parts of them have stopped believing that liberalism is indeed progress. All hail the moral police and long live cultural relativism or whatever its currently trendy post-structural reconstruction is.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by yarg on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:32AM (#41471663)
It doesn't help that the term 'liberal' has had its meaning so co-opted that it now refers to people who reject freedom of speech and belief.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by CaptainFever on Saturday September 07, 2024 @04:34AM (#41472468)
True, though I would say that is leftism. Leftists actually hate liberals and use it as a slur, believe it or not.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by BlueTemplar on Saturday September 07, 2024 @05:11PM (#41476490)
While they often go together, economic liberalism shouldn't be confused with social liberalism.