Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by dredmorbius on Monday August 26, 2024 @06:52AM
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The GI and his wife pictured about a quarter of the way through this piece are likely Ernest Kreiling and his newlywed bride Jean Vonachen, who toured post-war Europe in 1947, revisiting locations he'd fought in during 1944-5. Their photography ran in Life Magazine:
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by openasocket on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @12:58PM
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Super niche nitpick: the photo is not of a tank. That appears to be a StuG III, which is not a tank. There is no turret, the gun is just fixed in the hull, with a couple degrees of freedom. Originally intended as a sort of mobile fire support for infantry, eventually got some anti-tank capability. They were not part of the Panzercorps by the Wehrmacht, who saw it as a specialized form of artillery.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by _glass on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @03:43AM
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I had to sign off that I am not concerned of the likely undetonated bombs underneath my home when buying my apartment this year. In Hamburg, Germany, there are so many bombs still under buildings, because buildings were put on top hastily.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by lostlogin on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @06:44AM
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The bombing of Hamburg is a shocking event. The scale of it was so immense that it was used as a justification for nuclear attacks on civilians. The argument being ‘What’s the difference? Tens or even hundreds of thousands die in either event’.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by self_awareness on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @09:01AM
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Wasn't Operation Gomorrah a response to the Operation Blitz that was
conducted by Germany earlier?
I can see that German Blitz is reported to cause 40.000 civilian deaths,
similar to Allied Gomorrah. So if anything would be shocking, it should
probably be Blitz, not Gomorrah?
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by mmaniac on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @11:05AM
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The Blitz was an 8 month campaign targeting cities all across Britain. Operation Gomorrah had a comparable death toll within one city over eight days. It sounds like the density of destruction from Gomorrah was a lot greater.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by self_awareness on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @02:15PM
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Well, true, if we consider those without context. But context is key.
There's attack and there's retaliation. British bombings for me aren't
nearly as shocking as aggression of Germans.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by yu3zhou4 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @06:19AM
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To this day, bombs from World Wars are being found in Poland. Recently, a renovation of one of important roads in Gdańsk was stopped because they found a WWII bomb in the ground
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by dEnigma on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @07:05AM
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Regular occurrence here in Austria as well. Funnily enough back in school when we watched "Der Untergang" (Downfall), we were escorted out of the movie theatre by policemen right after the movie ended because they'd just found a big WWII bomb nearby at a construction site.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @08:02AM
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This is one reason why cluster bombs are banned (albeit that's ignored) and why anti-personnel mines should be banned (there's the Ottawa treaty but the bigger forces like the US, Russia, China, India and Pakistan have not signed it). As an alternative the US's ATACMS rockets have a variant with tungsten shrapnel, which has been used against Russian force gatherings and transport columns like a giant shotgun blast but without the leftover unexploded ordnance.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by beryilma on Thursday August 29, 2024 @06:26PM
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I had an engineer friend in an eastern European country who had a contract with their army to build automated equipment to dismantle artillery shells from WWI still in stock at their armories. So, yeah, we still haven't cleaned up from WWI.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017)
by pimlottc on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @09:06AM
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Holy cow, I had not heard of this one-man German manually guided rocket before, the Bachem Ba-349 Natter:
> Rocket-powered, it took off vertically from a launch pole, and was guided at near-transonic speed by an autopilot. At the last moment, the pilot took over and aligned the nose, which was filled with unguided rockets, at an enemy bomber. After the one-time attack, the Natter split in half. The engine parachuted down for re-use, the nose section was discarded, and the pilot (who was “spit out” of the open nose by inertia as the tail section parachute opened) separately parachuted to safety.
Truly a weapon of desperation. Imagine being asked to climb into one of those things...
> Only 36 Ba-349s were built and only one flew one time, killing the pilot.
<https://www.life.com/history/where-it-happened-a-former-g-i-...>
I suspect this is another image from the sequence of the pair on the tank: <https://static.life.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/04144747/...> (from the Life article above).
https://www.ogj.com/refining-processing/refining/operations/...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Hamburg_in_World_...
I can see that German Blitz is reported to cause 40.000 civilian deaths, similar to Allied Gomorrah. So if anything would be shocking, it should probably be Blitz, not Gomorrah?
> Rocket-powered, it took off vertically from a launch pole, and was guided at near-transonic speed by an autopilot. At the last moment, the pilot took over and aligned the nose, which was filled with unguided rockets, at an enemy bomber. After the one-time attack, the Natter split in half. The engine parachuted down for re-use, the nose section was discarded, and the pilot (who was “spit out” of the open nose by inertia as the tail section parachute opened) separately parachuted to safety.
Truly a weapon of desperation. Imagine being asked to climb into one of those things...
> Only 36 Ba-349s were built and only one flew one time, killing the pilot.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokosuka_MXY-7_Ohka
Hehe, I got some laying next to my driveway, for use in muddy situations. Here in France you can still find them here and there.