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Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by dredmorbius on Monday August 26, 2024 @06:52AM (#41355925)
The GI and his wife pictured about a quarter of the way through this piece are likely Ernest Kreiling and his newlywed bride Jean Vonachen, who toured post-war Europe in 1947, revisiting locations he'd fought in during 1944-5. Their photography ran in Life Magazine:

<https://www.life.com/history/where-it-happened-a-former-g-i-...>

I suspect this is another image from the sequence of the pair on the tank: <https://static.life.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/04144747/...> (from the Life article above).

Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by openasocket on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @12:58PM (#41381575)
Super niche nitpick: the photo is not of a tank. That appears to be a StuG III, which is not a tank. There is no turret, the gun is just fixed in the hull, with a couple degrees of freedom. Originally intended as a sort of mobile fire support for infantry, eventually got some anti-tank capability. They were not part of the Panzercorps by the Wehrmacht, who saw it as a specialized form of artillery.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by dredmorbius on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @11:20PM (#41386946)
Thanks for the nitpicking!
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by dredmorbius on Monday August 26, 2024 @06:35AM (#41355801)
Semi-related discussion, in which this link was mentioned: "How WW2 bombs across the Pacific are found and destroyed, decades after war" <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41314166#41354620>.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by _glass on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @03:43AM (#41377010)
I had to sign off that I am not concerned of the likely undetonated bombs underneath my home when buying my apartment this year. In Hamburg, Germany, there are so many bombs still under buildings, because buildings were put on top hastily.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by imp0cat on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @05:20AM (#41377617)
Just a few days ago, a refinery had to be shut down and evacuated because an old unexploded WW2 bomb was found.

https://www.ogj.com/refining-processing/refining/operations/...

Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by lostlogin on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @06:44AM (#41378093)
The bombing of Hamburg is a shocking event. The scale of it was so immense that it was used as a justification for nuclear attacks on civilians. The argument being ‘What’s the difference? Tens or even hundreds of thousands die in either event’.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Hamburg_in_World_...

Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by self_awareness on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @09:01AM (#41379014)
Wasn't Operation Gomorrah a response to the Operation Blitz that was conducted by Germany earlier?

I can see that German Blitz is reported to cause 40.000 civilian deaths, similar to Allied Gomorrah. So if anything would be shocking, it should probably be Blitz, not Gomorrah?

Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by mmaniac on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @11:05AM (#41380345)
The Blitz was an 8 month campaign targeting cities all across Britain. Operation Gomorrah had a comparable death toll within one city over eight days. It sounds like the density of destruction from Gomorrah was a lot greater.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by itishappy on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @10:41AM (#41380061)
I'm pretty shocked by both, aren't you?
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by self_awareness on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @02:15PM (#41382459)
Well, true, if we consider those without context. But context is key. There's attack and there's retaliation. British bombings for me aren't nearly as shocking as aggression of Germans.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by yu3zhou4 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @06:19AM (#41377939)
To this day, bombs from World Wars are being found in Poland. Recently, a renovation of one of important roads in Gdańsk was stopped because they found a WWII bomb in the ground
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @08:05AM (#41378549)
Planes, too; a German bomber that crashed 81 years ago, as well as an English aircraft were dug up recently in my country: https://www-omropfryslan-nl.translate.goog/nl/nieuws/1671228...
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by dEnigma on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @07:05AM (#41378203)
Regular occurrence here in Austria as well. Funnily enough back in school when we watched "Der Untergang" (Downfall), we were escorted out of the movie theatre by policemen right after the movie ended because they'd just found a big WWII bomb nearby at a construction site.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by Ylpertnodi on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @07:17AM (#41378279)
Hitler rants....about creppy ordinance. Und fisch.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by 3D30497420 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @08:54AM (#41378926)
Especially common here in Berlin. They found several bombs when building the Tesla factory recently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_bomb_disposal_in_...
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by high_5 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @06:50AM (#41378123)
WWII??? We haven't managed yet to clean up after WWI! For example, nearly every day unexploded munitions are found on the former Isonzo frontline.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @08:02AM (#41378534)
This is one reason why cluster bombs are banned (albeit that's ignored) and why anti-personnel mines should be banned (there's the Ottawa treaty but the bigger forces like the US, Russia, China, India and Pakistan have not signed it). As an alternative the US's ATACMS rockets have a variant with tungsten shrapnel, which has been used against Russian force gatherings and transport columns like a giant shotgun blast but without the leftover unexploded ordnance.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by kjs3 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @01:17PM (#41381760)
There are parts of France that are simply off limits because the volume of UXO left over from WWI was deemed too much to even try to clean up: https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-i/zone-rouge.html
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by high_5 on Thursday August 29, 2024 @01:34AM (#41387681)
Imagine then having a forest fire in zone rouge: https://www.businessinsider.com/slovenia-wildfires-set-off-h...
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by beryilma on Thursday August 29, 2024 @06:26PM (#41395960)
I had an engineer friend in an eastern European country who had a contract with their army to build automated equipment to dismantle artillery shells from WWI still in stock at their armories. So, yeah, we still haven't cleaned up from WWI.
Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by pimlottc on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @09:06AM (#41379052)
Holy cow, I had not heard of this one-man German manually guided rocket before, the Bachem Ba-349 Natter:

> Rocket-powered, it took off vertically from a launch pole, and was guided at near-transonic speed by an autopilot. At the last moment, the pilot took over and aligned the nose, which was filled with unguided rockets, at an enemy bomber. After the one-time attack, the Natter split in half. The engine parachuted down for re-use, the nose section was discarded, and the pilot (who was “spit out” of the open nose by inertia as the tail section parachute opened) separately parachuted to safety.

Truly a weapon of desperation. Imagine being asked to climb into one of those things...

> Only 36 Ba-349s were built and only one flew one time, killing the pilot.

Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by kjs3 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @01:14PM (#41381743)
That's batshit crazy, but it could be worse[1]. At least the Nazis could say "well, you got a chance you'll live".

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokosuka_MXY-7_Ohka

Re:Cleaning up after WWII (2017) by ciconia on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @04:45PM (#41384151)
> Prefabricated steel matting was used by the Allies in both Europe and the Pacific, usually for aircraft runways but sometimes as road reinforcement.

Hehe, I got some laying next to my driveway, for use in muddy situations. Here in France you can still find them here and there.