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Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by jmclnx on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:07AM (#41246252)
I hate to be this way.

Good! When Congress Critter's little blond granddaughter gets pwned (someone takes her identity), maybe Congress will get real serious about really punishing these Companies when a breach happens.

But we know what will really happen in this scenario, the Company will get funding (bailout) from the Feds, the CEO will resign with millions of USD, the CEO will become a lobbyist.

And in reality, the granddaughter will get special treatment from the Company due to who she is.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by focusgroup0 on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:11AM (#41246295)
>little blond granddaughter

what does an imaginary young woman's hair color have to do with cybersecurity?

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by vvpan on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:16AM (#41246352)
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by practicemaths on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:14AM (#41246320)
Simple. American society tends to value blond white girls more.

Notice you didn't question what the gender of the grandchild.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by shrubble on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:17AM (#41246378)
Maybe that occurred since the post specified “granddaughter“?
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by samier-trellis on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:19AM (#41246393)
The post also specified the hair color
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by stavros on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:36AM (#41246587)
They questioned the hair color ("why blonde") but not the gender ("why a woman").
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by crtasm on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:42AM (#41246678)
Seems to be clearly questioning the entire premise to me.
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by snek_case on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:14AM (#41246321)
People are more sensitive to the pain of others when the victim is perceived as cute. See cute animals vs not so cute animals. We're instinctively wired to think that cute means innocent, helpless and deserving of help and protection. Obviously what is considered cute is subjective and culturally influenced to some extent.
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by Kon-Peki on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:14AM (#41246330)
> When Congress Critter's little blond granddaughter gets pwned (someone takes her identity), maybe Congress will get real serious

LOL. Congressman Danny Davis' grandson was murdered by someone who wanted his shoes and Congress didn't even care enough to yawn.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by samier-trellis on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:20AM (#41246399)
Murder is already illegal.
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by FriedrichN on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:27AM (#41246472)
And they were caught and received 30 year prison sentences.

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/2-sentenced-to-prison-for-...

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by thfuran on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:24AM (#41246442)
So is identity theft.
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by jvanderbot on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:33AM (#41246556)
Identity "theft" is corporate responsibility laundering. It is not "theft" it is "lack of safeguards on PII" plus "lack of meaningful, protected PII" combined with "A complete lack of proper vetting of loan / credit applicants"

Someone put the right 10 digits into a webform? What could we do! They stole your identity!

No, you just didn't want to force someone to walk into a bank to apply in person because that would cost more and reduce your new applicant rate.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by thfuran on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:45AM (#41246721)
Yes, but but the fraud is still illegal.
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by jasonlotito on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:35AM (#41246576)
While that's true, there are two sides to crime. Prevention and Punishment. One happens before, and the other happens after. People are generally fine with punishment. The prevention part is where we disagree. This then poses the question: how many of your children are you willing to sacrifice on the alter of anti-prevention?

So while a punishment might exist for something, that doesn't preclude trying to prevent the crime form occurring in the first place. This isn't easy work, and of course, it won't work 100% of the time, but it doesn't mean we stop trying to reduce the number.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by imwillofficial on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:23AM (#41246428)
This kind of racism is ok here?
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by prmoustache on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:46AM (#41246729)
Since it was written with sarcastic tone I think it is less racism than a testimony of systemic racism.
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by arolihas on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:24AM (#41246443)
how is this racism
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by dgfitz on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:37AM (#41246604)
Someone mentioned a skin color, must be racist!

Man, the internet sucks these days.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by RajT88 on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:45AM (#41246719)
This has been a right wing walking point for a long time (or more charitably and recently an anti-SJW talking point): Mentioning race is itself racist.

I can appreciate the superficial aspect of it - if we're going to overcome racism, we should stop focusing on race. This of course is ignorant to the reality that if we stop talking about race and racism, racism will just go unchecked. Which is of course what (some/many/most?) of those people want.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by dgfitz on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @03:46PM (#41249791)
It is actually even worse, I can't read. Skin color wasn't actually mentioned, just hair color.

Unfortunately, I don't think we will overcome racism until everyone wants to overcome racism. More unfortunately, I don't think everyone wants to overcome racism, this seems obvious.

The bigger tragedy is, trying to force-feed "don't be racist" to society just makes some people dig their heels in more, making things worse instead of better. Finally, the biggest tragedy of all is how predictable this outcome is, using force and anger as a tool to change the thoughts and actions of a person/group is generally quite ineffective.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by slackfan on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @11:43AM (#41247383)
They're against $specific_group, they can't be racist.
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by nar001 on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:30AM (#41246511)
This isn't racism
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by know-how on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:16AM (#41246354)
How about we punish the bad actors and their state-sponsors?
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by laweijfmvo on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:18AM (#41246380)
How? Sanctions? War? What do you suggest?
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by hnburnsy on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:33AM (#41246561)
Doesnt the US have like 17 clandestine agencies, I am sure many of which could engage in covert overseas activities that send a message to future actors about what could happen to them.
Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by RajT88 on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:40AM (#41246648)
This is how you end up bombing wedding parties. It's a bad idea.

And not just in a "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" kind of way.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by know-how on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @04:14PM (#41250039)
Sounds like you're being overly-dramatic.

We can, and should absolutely threaten bad actors, state or otherwise.

The alternative is to keep letting US citizens get scammed.

A government's mandate is the protection of its citizens.

The scam call volume alone from India steals 10 BILLION annually from US Citizens.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by know-how on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @04:12PM (#41250020)
Who said anything about war?

Yes, economic sanctions. Withhold money and make markets unavailable until local law enforcement addresses it.

Re:Hackers may have leaked the Social Security Numbers of ev... by gosub100 on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:20AM (#41246400)
Cause it worked so well in Iraq?