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Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by __MatrixMan__ on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @09:32PM (#40580596)
I imagine a social media site full of bots chatting about nonsense. Hidden in the nonsense are humans chatting about different nonsense. This way, server costs get paid for by advertisers, but its really only bots that see the ads anyway.
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by spullara on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @09:46PM (#40580662)
if the ads aren't effective people won't buy them
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by eviks on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @11:42PM (#40581165)
People have been buying ineffective ads since the invention of ads
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by spullara on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @01:33AM (#40581672)
zero clicks is a little different
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by eviks on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @03:55AM (#40582463)
Bots do click in real ad fraud, so your moved goalpost isn't all that solid
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by spullara on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @12:17PM (#40586807)
sorry, conversions is really what I meant. if the bots are also buying the stuff then it would work.
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by __MatrixMan__ on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:07PM (#40592701)
I'm not really concerned with whether it would work out in a way that was beneficial for the ad network or their customers. Either they figure out a way to make it work such that they continue to be a useful pipe, or they don't and then maybe they'll have to shut down and find something more productive to do with their time. We'll have done the public a service either way.
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @02:37AM (#40581996)
Not really, advertising is really the only field of human endeavour that is both data-driven and results-oriented.

(Doesn't still stop smart people from committing fraud, but that is a different story.)

Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by benterix on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @04:16AM (#40582578)
Unfortunately I beg to differ. I worked for several companies where we the management clearly saw that the results were very poor (for Facebook ads, for example) but continued to invest because there is a defined budget for it and so on. It was like this last year and 20 years ago.
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by jazzyjackson on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @04:57AM (#40582821)
these companies should be outcompeted by firms that don't blow a million dollars a month paying out to click fraudsters but alas the market is not perfectly competitive

is it a cargo cult? it works for coca cola so maybe if we just spend a little more we'll see returns...

Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by benterix on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @06:43AM (#40583425)
Yes, I feel it might be cargo cult, at least in part. The argument I usually heard was that "But other companies are doing that, too".
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @09:56AM (#40584839)
Yes, most fraud is inside the corporate structure. Not shady "hacker" types in Romania.
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by j16sdiz on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @10:15PM (#40580795)
It's called Twitter.

It's no nonsense, just catvideo and porns.

Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by __MatrixMan__ on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @01:11AM (#40581574)
Hmm yes, sensical things those.

Are you proposing that they're really only posted as a medium for encoding something else that we're not privy to? If so, somebody took my idea.