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Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by spullara on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @09:46PM (#40580662)
if the ads aren't effective people won't buy them
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by eviks on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @11:42PM (#40581165)
People have been buying ineffective ads since the invention of ads
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by spullara on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @01:33AM (#40581672)
zero clicks is a little different
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by eviks on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @03:55AM (#40582463)
Bots do click in real ad fraud, so your moved goalpost isn't all that solid
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by spullara on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @12:17PM (#40586807)
sorry, conversions is really what I meant. if the bots are also buying the stuff then it would work.
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by __MatrixMan__ on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:07PM (#40592701)
I'm not really concerned with whether it would work out in a way that was beneficial for the ad network or their customers. Either they figure out a way to make it work such that they continue to be a useful pipe, or they don't and then maybe they'll have to shut down and find something more productive to do with their time. We'll have done the public a service either way.
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @02:37AM (#40581996)
Not really, advertising is really the only field of human endeavour that is both data-driven and results-oriented.

(Doesn't still stop smart people from committing fraud, but that is a different story.)

Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by benterix on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @04:16AM (#40582578)
Unfortunately I beg to differ. I worked for several companies where we the management clearly saw that the results were very poor (for Facebook ads, for example) but continued to invest because there is a defined budget for it and so on. It was like this last year and 20 years ago.
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by jazzyjackson on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @04:57AM (#40582821)
these companies should be outcompeted by firms that don't blow a million dollars a month paying out to click fraudsters but alas the market is not perfectly competitive

is it a cargo cult? it works for coca cola so maybe if we just spend a little more we'll see returns...

Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by benterix on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @06:43AM (#40583425)
Yes, I feel it might be cargo cult, at least in part. The argument I usually heard was that "But other companies are doing that, too".
Re:Entropy, a CLI that scans files to find high entropy line... by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @09:56AM (#40584839)
Yes, most fraud is inside the corporate structure. Not shady "hacker" types in Romania.