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Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by guurfhihh46775 on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:17PM (#40460024)
US propaganda at its best.

If you'd asked the continentals as to who was responsible for ending the war in Europe, the overwhelming majority in the 40/50s would've answered "the Soviets".

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by morkalork on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:31PM (#40460144)
There's an old tank factory in my north American city that's been repurposed as a trendy office space. Inside you can see photos of the production line and the celebration for tank number 1,000 being completed. Every single one was shipped to the USSR.
Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by cpursley on Thursday May 23, 2024 @06:21PM (#40460582)
And even still, the USSR produced more tanks than all the other allies combined (many of those in Ukraine).
Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by shakow on Thursday May 23, 2024 @07:29PM (#40461149)
> many of those in Ukraine

*with factories & workers relocated from Ukraine.

The SSR of Ukraine having been under the Nazi yoke for most of the war, what could be saved was moved to the East, to the famous factori complexes of e.g. Tchelyabinsk, Nijni Tagil, Gorky, etc.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by FredPret on Friday May 24, 2024 @12:57AM (#40462923)
Note that large amounts of resources were sent to them for free to help them do this.

It was definitely a team effort.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by surfingdino on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:32PM (#40460151)
Once they were given a lot of equipment and food by the US https://www.historians.org/about-aha-and-membership/aha-hist...

Nobody is going to forget the human sacrifice, but credit where credit's due.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by Someone on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:28PM (#40460117)
The Soviets weren’t very popular at the time in most of Europe, especially in the parts the Soviets drove the Germans away from, so I doubt people would have admitted to that, even if they thought it to be true.

I also think it isn’t quite true. Leaving out a lot of nuance I would say “American industry and Russian blood”

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by FredPret on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:38PM (#40460217)
Ah, Russian propaganda at work (though not at its best)
Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by yreg on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:22PM (#40460069)
True, but that's also partially thanks to the Russian propaganda at its best.

(I live in a post-communist country.)

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by mschuster91 on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:44PM (#40460272)
> If you'd asked the continentals

Eastern Europeans, yes. Anything west of the GDR was done by US/UK/FR.

> as to who was responsible for ending the war in Europe, the overwhelming majority in the 40/50s would've answered "the Soviets".

... and then they'd follow up and say "and the Soviets weren't much better than the Nazis". The "Red Army" was truly infamous for massive amounts of alcohol abuse, looting, rape and torture (both among themselves and towards the civilian population), a tradition that was kept alive throughout the ages up until now in Ukraine.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by dieortin on Thursday May 23, 2024 @06:38PM (#40460722)
> Anything west of the GDR was done by US/UK/FR

It was done mostly from 1944 onwards, when the Germans had already been defeated in the east front. A huge majority of the German war effort was spent on the east. The US and UK landing in Europe surely sped up things, but the Soviet Union had already won.

I have no sympathy for the current Russian regime, but claiming they weren’t responsible for winning WW2 screams American propaganda.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by kibwen on Thursday May 23, 2024 @07:38PM (#40461203)
> claiming they weren’t responsible for winning WW2 screams American propaganda

Overlooking the US's enormous military to aid the USSR screams a different sort of propaganda. Meanwhile, gestures at the Pacific theater.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by cabirum on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:57PM (#40460388)
> alcohol abuse, looting, rape and torture

Ah, western propaganda at its best

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by CamperBob2 on Thursday May 23, 2024 @06:14PM (#40460518)
(Shrug) If people are willing to risk their lives trying to break out of your country, you're doing it wrong. It's as simple as that.
Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by dylan604 on Thursday May 23, 2024 @06:35PM (#40460703)
As well as the opposite if people are standing outside your border begging to come in...