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Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by mschuster91 on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:44PM (#40460272)
> If you'd asked the continentals

Eastern Europeans, yes. Anything west of the GDR was done by US/UK/FR.

> as to who was responsible for ending the war in Europe, the overwhelming majority in the 40/50s would've answered "the Soviets".

... and then they'd follow up and say "and the Soviets weren't much better than the Nazis". The "Red Army" was truly infamous for massive amounts of alcohol abuse, looting, rape and torture (both among themselves and towards the civilian population), a tradition that was kept alive throughout the ages up until now in Ukraine.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by dieortin on Thursday May 23, 2024 @06:38PM (#40460722)
> Anything west of the GDR was done by US/UK/FR

It was done mostly from 1944 onwards, when the Germans had already been defeated in the east front. A huge majority of the German war effort was spent on the east. The US and UK landing in Europe surely sped up things, but the Soviet Union had already won.

I have no sympathy for the current Russian regime, but claiming they weren’t responsible for winning WW2 screams American propaganda.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by kibwen on Thursday May 23, 2024 @07:38PM (#40461203)
> claiming they weren’t responsible for winning WW2 screams American propaganda

Overlooking the US's enormous military to aid the USSR screams a different sort of propaganda. Meanwhile, gestures at the Pacific theater.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by cabirum on Thursday May 23, 2024 @05:57PM (#40460388)
> alcohol abuse, looting, rape and torture

Ah, western propaganda at its best

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by CamperBob2 on Thursday May 23, 2024 @06:14PM (#40460518)
(Shrug) If people are willing to risk their lives trying to break out of your country, you're doing it wrong. It's as simple as that.
Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by dylan604 on Thursday May 23, 2024 @06:35PM (#40460703)
As well as the opposite if people are standing outside your border begging to come in...