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Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by Dowwie on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:05AM (#40344180)
In other words, it's a great time to build the next Squarespace.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by makeitdouble on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:31AM (#40344453)
Would it have gone private if it was such a great business at this moment ?

Squarespece looked like a fairly competent company, even as they were perhaps overspending on advertisement. Their competitors don't seem to be doing that much better except for Automattic perhaps.

Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by sroussey on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:35AM (#40344500)
Yes. Private equity likes cash making business machines.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by dexwiz on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:07PM (#40344844)
The bet is they make money now, but could be trimmed and squeezed to make even more.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by rchaud on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:47AM (#40344640)
Like Sears and Hertz?
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by dehrmann on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:50PM (#40345331)
There are different strategies. You can buy up dying companies and try to turn them around with management changes (and debt), you can sell off companies for scrap, you can buy up money printing machines and run them hotter.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by lotsofpulp on Monday May 13, 2024 @01:05PM (#40345490)
Just to show that these bets are not without risk, the Sears bet failed bigtime. Lampert lost a ton of money.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by dehrmann on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @12:35PM (#40369154)
People love to vilify PE for destroying companies, but a lot of these companies were dying anyway, and PE was trying a last-ditch, high-risk reorg to save them.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by mywittyname on Monday May 13, 2024 @02:44PM (#40346760)
It's still possible to make money in this situation. Buy a company, then have it buy itself back using debt. The PE firm gets most of its initial capital investment back then secures a revenue stream in the form of management fees. The company can still go bankrupt, but as long as it sticks around long enough to pay back enough to the parent company that it turned a profit, things worked out. The bond holders can fight over the scraps post-bankruptcy.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by michaelt on Monday May 13, 2024 @02:09PM (#40346367)
Ah, but stock market investors also like cash making business machines.

If private equity is able to outbid the stock market, they must have spotted a way they can extract more value. Sometimes that's by raiding the pension fund and cranking up prices. Other times it's a distressed business and better management can turn it around.

Neither is exactly good news for customers.

Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by lokar on Monday May 13, 2024 @03:56PM (#40347611)
The market care more about growth
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by pier25 on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:14AM (#40344274)
There's Wix, Webflow, and others already. Seems pretty crowded.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by PedroBatista on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:36AM (#40344509)
Which is a pretty good sign the market is viable.

You only need to "be better".

And here "better", means eveything on can think of, including NOT spending money.

Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by airstrike on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:38AM (#40344534)
Sadly that often amounts to being more heavily marketed
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by PedroBatista on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:52AM (#40344699)
That has been the game, money was "free" and VCs wanted that unicorn status. But that is also a huge liability.

When the asteroid came, only the small mammals survived.

Of course I'm talking about one way that could possibly lead to a sucessful business. There are many ways, nothing is garanteed but that also applies to failure.

Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by echelon on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:23PM (#40345017)
That means the TAM is fully owned and you have to work that much harder to grab a slice.

"Competition is for losers."

I suppose if you're really passionate about the space, go ahead, but it's incredibly crowded with dozens of players. Some are even owned by the fintech giants.

Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by morkalork on Monday May 13, 2024 @01:23PM (#40345719)
There's a whole ecosystem of adjacent services-for-SMBs providers in hosting, domains, online advertising etc. and all the companies are running the "commoditize their products complements" playbook. Anyone trying to enter the market is competing against prices that don't even make sense in isolation.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by nraynaud on Monday May 13, 2024 @01:19PM (#40345676)
I'm curious, have MBAs made anything better for the masses, ever?
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by rchaud on Monday May 13, 2024 @04:32PM (#40348061)
Couldn't you ask the same of most programmers? One way or another, everybody is pushing paper or pixels. Is the adtech developer at Google, FB, Amazon somehow morally superior to a finance bro that takes a job at Carlyle Group?
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by johnnyanmac on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @05:06AM (#40353099)
Depends on how you interpret what a programer's role and skin in the game is. by the Google/FB/Amazon level, the programmer is just another cog in the machine being told what to make by a director, who reports to/with some MBAs.

For smaller companies, I'd say programmers have done their share of good and evil. the AI sector is in real time gray area with some very malicious actions not too long ago to try and be first to market.

Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by toddmorey on Monday May 13, 2024 @01:20PM (#40345691)
Better here usually means finding a path to lower cost of acquiring customers.

Of course retention helps too but my gut is that Squarespace had reasonably low churn but increasingly elevated customer acquisition costs along with no real enterprise traction.

Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by msoad on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:26AM (#40344403)
Most young folks don't understand URLs anymore? "Find us on App Store" or "Find us on Social Media" is the new internet. QR codes that takes you directly into a walled garden is the new web.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by judge2020 on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:28AM (#40344435)
Id argue that QR codes are doing pretty well at keeping bespoke URLs alive (although it pains me to see people use qrco.de or other qr code generators that automatically shorten the URL and thus could, at any point, maliciously redirect people to ads or malware instead. I don't see bitly doing this but it's unnecessary risk).
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by keane on Monday May 13, 2024 @03:31PM (#40347329)
I agree, it's sad to see the QR URL redirects which may go offline and are presumably tracking when a pure option is built into the OS: https://education.apple.com/resource/250011714
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by kevinmchugh on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:37AM (#40344518)
I see people using "linktree" to crosslink all their different social media accounts together and it really bums me out in a way I can't describe.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by rchaud on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:48AM (#40344659)
Linktree became the go to because social media networks only give you a single link to display on your bio.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by NewJazz on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:24PM (#40345021)
And they also don't like it when that single link points to onlyfans.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by mschuster91 on Monday May 13, 2024 @01:01PM (#40345454)
Who'd guess why, Onlyfans (and related) spammers are the scourge of the Internet these days.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by barkbyte on Monday May 13, 2024 @07:02PM (#40349591)
Google is the scourge.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by mschuster91 on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @03:03AM (#40352414)
I don't see OF spammers blasting Google with spam, but I see tons of OF (and other porn) spam on Twitter and Reddit.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by kevinmchugh on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:52AM (#40344690)
Sure, but depending on another single point of failure - as opposed to linking to a url you actually own - is what distresses me
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by oldandboring on Monday May 13, 2024 @01:05PM (#40345486)
Seeing the proliferation of Linktree makes me feel bad for the folks like about.me who had this idea years and years ago and never caught fire.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by Andrex on Monday May 13, 2024 @09:26PM (#40350623)
Linktree seems like the natural evolution of About.me.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by SoftTalker on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:05PM (#40344820)
Rember AOL keywords?

Most people never understood URLs.

Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by Kye on Monday May 13, 2024 @03:05PM (#40347018)
There's always a crowd of incumbents. They always think they have their little piece locked down. That's what makes it a good time to move.
Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by matwood on Monday May 13, 2024 @01:52PM (#40346119)
When PE steps in, it usually means the growth is gone. They are often operators with teams who know how to run a lean business. If Squarespace had some huge growth estimates, PE would not have been able to afford to take them public.

So there may be an opportunity, but finding customers and funding will be hard.

Re:Squarespace to Go Private in $6.9B All-Cash Transaction w... by hernansartorio on Monday May 13, 2024 @03:12PM (#40347099)
I'm on it.