Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by jantissler on Saturday May 04, 2024 @04:19PM
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Uber and Lyft are not in the robotaxi business. And yes, a lot of these gig companies barely make any money as it is. Most lose money. They basically just hope to be the last one standing and to then rack up prices to a profitable level.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by TheAlchemist on Friday May 03, 2024 @11:41PM
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From what I've read, Tesla has developed all of it's internal software - for CRM but ... also for accounting.
And it seems that a lot of information is heavily restricted. It's a major red flag. Especially when the CEO may be one of the last senior people left having access to some material information, and said CEO is a drug addict with a very documented history of lying.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by TheNewsIsHere on Friday May 03, 2024 @11:30PM
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Right. Even if you aren’t in a regulated area (of any kind), if you have any sort of reasonably sophisticated accounting software you should _at least_ be able to produce a list of businesses with which you exchange money and go from there.
A car manufacturer? How is that not an already built report on the ERP? Even if it is Tesla we’re talking about. My small business has three digits of records in the “Partners” table in our ERP and we can produce an Excel spreadsheet of all our vendors + contact info in less than two minutes.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by twoWhlsGud on Monday May 06, 2024 @05:42PM
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And I can't imagine this isn't going to make the order book look worse. I'm currently cross shopping Tesla with other EV's and plug-in hybrids and this announcement has me pretty much dropping the idea of getting a Tesla. If the supercharger network stops growing and being properly maintained it's going to become just another overburdened unreliable system. At that point the model Y's idiosyncrasies (eg limited physical controls and no CarPlay) overwhelm the advantages that the charging network previously brought.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by afavour on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:34PM
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I have to imagine another EV company will be very happy to hire the exec Musk fired along with the staff of their choosing. Or maybe the EV companies could all throw cash into an independent charging company? Either way this infrastructure is too important (and long term, too lucrative) for someone to not get involved.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by hehdhdjehehegwv on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:09PM
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Or maybe if you fire EVERYBODY there’s no one to onboard new people, or even anybody left who has a login.
Elon needs to go, EV adoption is an important goal for species survival, he’s actively damaging those goals now - even if he did help kick off the revolution he’s now more net negative than positive as a CEO.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by haileys on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:29PM
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No. EV adoption is an important goal for the car industry's survival.
If we're talking about the species' survival, I sure hope we can adopt a broader vision than taking a land-hungry and energy-intensive mode of transport, and changing nothing about it except for making it run on batteries.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by ta_1138 on Saturday May 04, 2024 @02:06AM
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Bicycles win when the level of density is still relatively low. If we are serious about efficiency, bikes don't make that more sense. Sufficient density so that most activity can be done on foot, and the rest is mass transit.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by haileys on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:45PM
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Yes, a smarter mix of options is the way to go. Cars are a one-size-fits-all approach that can't hope to achieve what we need for a sustainable future.
In Perth, Australia, two thirds of all car trips are for distances of less than 5 kilometers. Using cars for these trips is both irrational and a hopelessly profligate use of resources, regardless of how they're powered.
5 kilometers is the kind of distance where even pedal bicycles are competitive with cars in terms of trip time, especially once you factor in traffic. And e-bikes are only getting cheaper and more accessible too.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by hehdhdjehehegwv on Friday May 03, 2024 @10:20PM
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California high speed is happening slowly but surely. I think by 2030 the Central Valley will have a real HS line, and while that leaves out SFB/LA, Central Valley is fastest growing population.
Likewise the LA/Vegas line looks like a real money maker on paper.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by matthewdgreen on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:36PM
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EV transportation is a gateway to large-scale renewable energy storage, so even if you dislike private transportation this is actually pretty damn useful. On the other hand the (mostly Chinese) battery suppliers seem to have entered the fast part of the S-curve, so maybe Tesla isn't critical anymore -- except maybe to the competitiveness of the US in these areas.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by afavour on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:20PM
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If what you’re saying was true (which I doubt) the responsibility will still fall on Musk, both for having let the situation go on for as long as it did and for laying off all the workers with absolutely no contingency plan.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by netsharc on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:37PM
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Gotta love the Elon apologist trying to twist things so the almighty Elon is never wrong. At least he's probably convinced himself that Elon is still the GOAT.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by stubish on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:31PM
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New people? Do you honestly think they have replaced an entire team in the few days since firing the last one? Only people in the building able to log into the project management system are likely Elon and the sysadmins.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by bhouston on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:33PM
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Could it be that Elon didn't appreciate that the head of the Tesla supercharger division had gotten other car companies to adopt the Tesla charger standard? Basically helping other competitor car companies tap into the Tesla network?
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by peutetre on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:17PM
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Tesla's definition of a site being 100% up is at least half the plugs working on a given day. If 50% of the plugs are working then Tesla deems the site to be 100% up.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by langsoul-com on Saturday May 04, 2024 @02:06AM
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Nobody wants to go to a charging site only to find they don't work.
Same story for petrol stations. The only difference is petrol stations have been around for a very long time so already dealt with the reliability problem. Ev charging stations have room for adjustment.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:06PM
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The email:
>To all concerned:
>You may be aware that there has been a recent adjustment with the Supercharger organization which is presently undergoing a sudden and thorough restructuring. If you have already received this email, please disregard it as we are attempting to connect with our suppliers and contractors. As part of this process, we are in the midst of establishing new leadership roles, prioritizing projects, and streamlining our payment procedures. Due to the transitional nature of this phase, we are asking for your patience with our response time.
>I understand that this period of change may be challenging and that patience is not easy when expecting to be paid, however, I want to express my sincere appreciation for your understanding and support as we navigate through this transition. At this time, please hold on breaking ground on any newly awarded construction projects and planned pre-construction walks. If currently working on an active Supercharging construction site, please continue. Contact [email redacted] for further questions, comments, and concerns. Additionally, hold on working on any new material orders. Contact [email redacted] for further questions, comments, and concerns. If waiting on delayed payment, please contact [email redacted] for a status update. Thank you for your cooperation and patience.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by Lammy on Friday May 03, 2024 @09:05PM
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Saved you a click
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To all concerned:
You may be aware that there has been a recent adjustment with the Supercharger organization which is presently undergoing a sudden and thorough restructuring. If you have already received this email, please disregard it as we are attempting to connect with our suppliers and contractors. As part of this process, we are in the midst of establishing new leadership roles, prioritizing projects, and streamlining our payment procedures. Due to the transitional nature of this phase, we are asking for your patience with our response time.
I understand that this period of change may be challenging and that patience is not easy when expecting to be paid, however, I want to express my sincere appreciation for your understanding and support as we navigate through this transition. At this time, please hold on breaking ground on any newly awarded construction projects and planned pre-construction walks. If currently working on an active Supercharging construction site, please continue. Contact [email redacted] for further questions, comments, and concerns. Additionally, hold on working on any new material orders. Contact [email redacted] for further questions, comments, and concerns. If waiting on delayed payment, please contact [email redacted] for a status update. Thank you for your cooperation and patience.
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by ailurooo on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @04:17PM
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because hn mods refuse to give bad light to tesla and israel, perhaps to avoid a flame war, perhaps to support their own bottom line. idk i just have a rss feed turned on to ingest new posts before they get yanked, and have a hn account with the option to see shadow banned accounts turned on.. and that mostly deals with this..
Re:Read the wild email Tesla is sending to suppliers amid Su...
by lamontcg on Monday May 06, 2024 @11:23AM
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> We have heard from several sources who told us that the reason for these firings is because Rebecca Tinucci, former head of Tesla’s EV Charging division, resisted Musk’s demand to fire large portions of her team.
A woman stood up to him, so he fired her and her entire team?
It is like watching some cartoonish dictatorship cleaning ranks.
Tesla looks to not be on a financially strong course and so they needed to make major cuts somewhere. Supercharger network is probably okay for now.
Just a shame they continue to bet their company on Robotaxi for which there is no evidence will be a good business even if the technology works.
They need to focus more on refreshing their existing models and overall better customer satisfaction.
https://www.ft.com/content/dae2b90e-1ba0-4e8f-aabc-34aae4ca0...
This is the big first “remarkable” piece of evidence? This seems very typical.
And it seems that a lot of information is heavily restricted. It's a major red flag. Especially when the CEO may be one of the last senior people left having access to some material information, and said CEO is a drug addict with a very documented history of lying.
A car manufacturer? How is that not an already built report on the ERP? Even if it is Tesla we’re talking about. My small business has three digits of records in the “Partners” table in our ERP and we can produce an Excel spreadsheet of all our vendors + contact info in less than two minutes.
I have to imagine the order book looks bad and so he is panicking about next quarters financials with the drafting moves he is making.
Any large entity that doesn't know the contract status, percent complete, and vendor status for it's construction is wacked.
Either the new people don't know where the info is stored, or the old people were indeed incompetent and needed to be fired.
Elon needs to go, EV adoption is an important goal for species survival, he’s actively damaging those goals now - even if he did help kick off the revolution he’s now more net negative than positive as a CEO.
If we're talking about the species' survival, I sure hope we can adopt a broader vision than taking a land-hungry and energy-intensive mode of transport, and changing nothing about it except for making it run on batteries.
"This doesn't work for literally everyone so let's do this other thing that isn't as good"
There is no one-shot solution, motorized vehicles are not going away, but switching to EV is an absolute must.
Outside of the US there is still a legitimate fear of range anxiety made worse by Musk's announcement.
It seems to me that widespread deployment of hybrids where 95% of daily driving is done on batteries is a more workable approach.
In Perth, Australia, two thirds of all car trips are for distances of less than 5 kilometers. Using cars for these trips is both irrational and a hopelessly profligate use of resources, regardless of how they're powered.
5 kilometers is the kind of distance where even pedal bicycles are competitive with cars in terms of trip time, especially once you factor in traffic. And e-bikes are only getting cheaper and more accessible too.
That and price.
Likewise the LA/Vegas line looks like a real money maker on paper.
Private transportation will always be unsustainable, regardless of power source. More ambitious goals are necessary.
not a dislike, but a principled and objective position. Future investment in that modal should be zero.
Even with the most competently run department it would take months to get a grasp on their projects.
or were building job security, since there are troubles to replace them now
So 99.95% uptime sounds better than it is.
Same story for petrol stations. The only difference is petrol stations have been around for a very long time so already dealt with the reliability problem. Ev charging stations have room for adjustment.
>To all concerned:
>You may be aware that there has been a recent adjustment with the Supercharger organization which is presently undergoing a sudden and thorough restructuring. If you have already received this email, please disregard it as we are attempting to connect with our suppliers and contractors. As part of this process, we are in the midst of establishing new leadership roles, prioritizing projects, and streamlining our payment procedures. Due to the transitional nature of this phase, we are asking for your patience with our response time.
>I understand that this period of change may be challenging and that patience is not easy when expecting to be paid, however, I want to express my sincere appreciation for your understanding and support as we navigate through this transition. At this time, please hold on breaking ground on any newly awarded construction projects and planned pre-construction walks. If currently working on an active Supercharging construction site, please continue. Contact [email redacted] for further questions, comments, and concerns. Additionally, hold on working on any new material orders. Contact [email redacted] for further questions, comments, and concerns. If waiting on delayed payment, please contact [email redacted] for a status update. Thank you for your cooperation and patience.
lol
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To all concerned:
You may be aware that there has been a recent adjustment with the Supercharger organization which is presently undergoing a sudden and thorough restructuring. If you have already received this email, please disregard it as we are attempting to connect with our suppliers and contractors. As part of this process, we are in the midst of establishing new leadership roles, prioritizing projects, and streamlining our payment procedures. Due to the transitional nature of this phase, we are asking for your patience with our response time.
I understand that this period of change may be challenging and that patience is not easy when expecting to be paid, however, I want to express my sincere appreciation for your understanding and support as we navigate through this transition. At this time, please hold on breaking ground on any newly awarded construction projects and planned pre-construction walks. If currently working on an active Supercharging construction site, please continue. Contact [email redacted] for further questions, comments, and concerns. Additionally, hold on working on any new material orders. Contact [email redacted] for further questions, comments, and concerns. If waiting on delayed payment, please contact [email redacted] for a status update. Thank you for your cooperation and patience.
A woman stood up to him, so he fired her and her entire team?