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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by stickfigure on Saturday April 13, 2024 @11:28AM (#40023725)
Multinational corporations are going to have it rough in the future, as governments with competing (and sometimes contradictory) interests discover they have the ability to punish corporate behavior anywhere in the world. China is leading the way here.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by ytdytvhxgydvhh on Saturday April 13, 2024 @11:35AM (#40023784)
Italy seems to be right there too. Just saw they deemed a car model name illegal because it sounds Italian but isn’t made in Italy: https://www.thedrive.com/news/italy-tells-alfa-romeo-its-ill...
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by mauvehaus on Saturday April 13, 2024 @03:08PM (#40025243)
Wait 'til they hear about the Pepperidge Farm cookies.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by afiori on Saturday April 13, 2024 @05:13PM (#40026209)
None of those words sounds even vaguely italian
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Brian_K_White on Saturday April 13, 2024 @05:46PM (#40026451)
The single most famous one is Milano, and there is also Verona.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by afiori on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:29PM (#40026761)
So Milano and Verona are products in the Pepperidge Farm brand?

I was not familiar with the brand or their product naming

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by playingalong on Saturday April 13, 2024 @03:35PM (#40025402)
It'd be legal to produce it in Italy outside of the city of Milan. But it's illegal to produce it abroad.

I don't think they even pretend it's not protectionism.

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Saturday April 13, 2024 @05:17PM (#40026245)
Yeah… the Italian badge has to produce the Milano in Italy… absolutely crazy. Marketing guys who want to sell a Polish car should not be able to use the cultural cache built by Italy to do it.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by evantbyrne on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:09PM (#40026605)
It's going to take a bit more persuasion to get auto manufacturers to move to an entirely different state than silly rules around names. And while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture, which is to the benefit of Americans.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:53PM (#40026934)
> while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture

Much of modern Italian culture has direct roots in its post-War boom, with substantial portions having been grafted from Americana, e.g. pannetone, parmesan, tiramisu and quite a few "classic" pasta dishes like carbonara [1].

[1] https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b...

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:26AM (#40029875)
That is a great article on the invention of tradition in Italian cuisine, rightwing politics, the fallibility of popular memory, and the realities of prewar life in Europe.

It does not state that pannetone, parmesan, tiramasu, or 'quite a few "classic" dishes' are Americana.

According to the article pizzerias as a phenomenon are American. The most traditional Parmesan is American. Carbonara was an American innovation or at least arose due to American ingredients.

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by JumpCrisscross on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:32PM (#40034215)
Whoops, bad sentence construction. That reference was for the first phrase, regarding each of those dishes being post-War concoctions or reinventions.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Sunday April 14, 2024 @06:33PM (#40035089)
No worries. I often do it myself and I appreciate the article so thank you.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by pyottdes on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:01PM (#40026560)
What are your feelings about the Ferrari California?
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Saturday April 13, 2024 @11:36PM (#40028437)
Great car.

Similar feelings.

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Perepiska on Tuesday April 16, 2024 @02:26PM (#40055482)
Also Italien: make liquorice candies named "Fjord" [1] :)

[1] https://www.liking.it/en/products/candies/hard/balsamic-fjor...

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by ISL on Saturday April 13, 2024 @11:46AM (#40023876)
It leads to balkanization -- see Google's total withdrawal from China.

As a consumer, I recently selected a new device in large part because its cloud-affiliated software (and bespoke operating system) was written, stored, and administered in countries with appropriate and ethical legal frameworks. The competition was more feature-complete, but I concluded that I couldn't trust any of those options.

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by alsetmusic on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:47PM (#40025133)
Seems more and more that to lead a completely ethical existence means sacrificing luxury, happiness, and time. Or surrender to willful ignorance.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by lostlogin on Saturday April 13, 2024 @03:17PM (#40025293)
> to lead a completely ethical existence means sacrificing luxury, happiness, and time

Hasn’t this always been true? It’s also getting increasingly easy to buy things that meet ethical standards (or more cynically, it’s easier to buy things that meet some low bar that someone setup).

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by fsckboy on Saturday April 13, 2024 @03:35PM (#40025405)
> It leads to balkanization -- see Google's total withdrawal from China.

True balkanization does not occur in Italy, except Trieste and perhaps parts of Friuli-Venezia Giulia... and I put that in Italics!

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by ApolloFortyNine on Sunday April 14, 2024 @12:21AM (#40028626)
I feel like EU is ahead of the curve here with cookie pop-ups. In order to comply don't you have to go out of your way to block EU viewers? At least that's how it seems to be handled by ones that care, la times I believe was one example.

And I know some of their other policies specifically call out fining based on global revenue, not EU revenue.

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by stickfigure on Sunday April 14, 2024 @11:17AM (#40031711)
At some point, people will realize that companies without a physical EU footprint can just ignore it. Has anyone _ever_ been extradited over cookie banners?
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by ApolloFortyNine on Sunday April 14, 2024 @03:04PM (#40033498)
The "problem" is that you could get on a list to be denied entry at the border if you ever choose to travel.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by stickfigure on Monday April 15, 2024 @12:08AM (#40036993)
Who? The CEO? I like European travel more than most, but there's definitely a price you could pay me to give that up. LatAm is wonderful too.