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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by evantbyrne on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:09PM (#40026605)
It's going to take a bit more persuasion to get auto manufacturers to move to an entirely different state than silly rules around names. And while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture, which is to the benefit of Americans.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:53PM (#40026934)
> while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture

Much of modern Italian culture has direct roots in its post-War boom, with substantial portions having been grafted from Americana, e.g. pannetone, parmesan, tiramisu and quite a few "classic" pasta dishes like carbonara [1].

[1] https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b...

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:26AM (#40029875)
That is a great article on the invention of tradition in Italian cuisine, rightwing politics, the fallibility of popular memory, and the realities of prewar life in Europe.

It does not state that pannetone, parmesan, tiramasu, or 'quite a few "classic" dishes' are Americana.

According to the article pizzerias as a phenomenon are American. The most traditional Parmesan is American. Carbonara was an American innovation or at least arose due to American ingredients.

Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by JumpCrisscross on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:32PM (#40034215)
Whoops, bad sentence construction. That reference was for the first phrase, regarding each of those dishes being post-War concoctions or reinventions.
Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Sunday April 14, 2024 @06:33PM (#40035089)
No worries. I often do it myself and I appreciate the article so thank you.