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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by ytdytvhxgydvhh on Saturday April 13, 2024 @11:35AM (#40023784)
Italy seems to be right there too. Just saw they deemed a car model name illegal because it sounds Italian but isn’t made in Italy: https://www.thedrive.com/news/italy-tells-alfa-romeo-its-ill...
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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by mauvehaus on Saturday April 13, 2024 @03:08PM (#40025243)
Wait 'til they hear about the Pepperidge Farm cookies.
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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by afiori on Saturday April 13, 2024 @05:13PM (#40026209)
None of those words sounds even vaguely italian
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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Brian_K_White on Saturday April 13, 2024 @05:46PM (#40026451)
The single most famous one is Milano, and there is also Verona.
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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by afiori on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:29PM (#40026761)
So Milano and Verona are products in the Pepperidge Farm brand?

I was not familiar with the brand or their product naming

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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by playingalong on Saturday April 13, 2024 @03:35PM (#40025402)
It'd be legal to produce it in Italy outside of the city of Milan. But it's illegal to produce it abroad.

I don't think they even pretend it's not protectionism.

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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Saturday April 13, 2024 @05:17PM (#40026245)
Yeah… the Italian badge has to produce the Milano in Italy… absolutely crazy. Marketing guys who want to sell a Polish car should not be able to use the cultural cache built by Italy to do it.
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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by evantbyrne on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:09PM (#40026605)
It's going to take a bit more persuasion to get auto manufacturers to move to an entirely different state than silly rules around names. And while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture, which is to the benefit of Americans.
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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:53PM (#40026934)
> while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture

Much of modern Italian culture has direct roots in its post-War boom, with substantial portions having been grafted from Americana, e.g. pannetone, parmesan, tiramisu and quite a few "classic" pasta dishes like carbonara [1].

[1] https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b...

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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:26AM (#40029875)
That is a great article on the invention of tradition in Italian cuisine, rightwing politics, the fallibility of popular memory, and the realities of prewar life in Europe.

It does not state that pannetone, parmesan, tiramasu, or 'quite a few "classic" dishes' are Americana.

According to the article pizzerias as a phenomenon are American. The most traditional Parmesan is American. Carbonara was an American innovation or at least arose due to American ingredients.

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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by JumpCrisscross on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:32PM (#40034215)
Whoops, bad sentence construction. That reference was for the first phrase, regarding each of those dishes being post-War concoctions or reinventions.
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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Sunday April 14, 2024 @06:33PM (#40035089)
No worries. I often do it myself and I appreciate the article so thank you.
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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by pyottdes on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:01PM (#40026560)
What are your feelings about the Ferrari California?
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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Affric on Saturday April 13, 2024 @11:36PM (#40028437)
Great car.

Similar feelings.

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Re:Florence Museum Won Suit Against Publisher That Used Mich... by Perepiska on Tuesday April 16, 2024 @02:26PM (#40055482)
Also Italien: make liquorice candies named "Fjord" [1] :)

[1] https://www.liking.it/en/products/candies/hard/balsamic-fjor...

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