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Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by due-rr on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:18AM (#39892138)
Love the title!
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by amelius on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:25AM (#39892194)
I don't. Science already has a credibility problem, and click-baity titles only make it worse.
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by xandrius on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:55AM (#39892380)
Cannot be clickbaity if the title precisely explains what the paper is about.

The problem with science dissemination is not that it's too accessible but rather the polar opposite: even experts find reading some (many? Most?) papers truly dreadful because of the terse and dryness but one does it for the knowledge; on the other hand everyone else absolutely needs to rely on "science popularisers" to even half-understand half of what a paper is about. And that's the problem: the general scientific understanding is as good as the scientific rigor of the most understandable/entertaining science populariser out there.

To clarify: if person A is extremely diligent and precise but not too enjoyable to watch, they will get X views and maybe a limited (but positive) impact, on the other hand person B is not very diligent, cuts corners or even outright lies but is very easy and fun to watch, they reach N more people than person A, having an absolute huge (albeit negative) impact.

If the authors had a way to write both for experts and, somehow, have control on how that knowledge is available to the rest, the delta between the two methods of dissemination would be minimal (or at least controlled).

Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by amelius on Monday April 01, 2024 @06:33AM (#39892591)
Do you think this paper would be on HN if it had a regular kind of title?

At this point, there are more comments about the title than about its contents.

Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by passwordoops on Monday April 01, 2024 @07:53AM (#39893149)
Yes it would have. And the problem with science dissemination isn't click-baity titles, it's a combination of poorly executed science (hence the reproducibility and retraction crisis in many field), the abject, shameless hyperbole spewed by PR departments, and a lack of genuine scientific education
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by naasking on Monday April 01, 2024 @06:05PM (#39899952)
Would feces-doped graphene have gathered attention on HN? I dare say "yes"!
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by araes on Monday April 01, 2024 @12:57PM (#39896260)
The title appears to work in the context of ACS Nano. Has 200+ citations, and cited by several other 200+ papers. Maybe double the average ACS Nano citations of 87 (Exaly says 1.5 million citations on 17,200 papers https://exaly.com/journal/12906/acs-nano) If other authors found it click baity, they found it click bait in a way that deserved inclusion in their own work above the norm of ACS Nano.
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by nottorp on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:42AM (#39892316)
That is actually a humorous title.

Note that the title accurately describes what the article is about. As opposed to clickbait. Clickbait would have been "You would never believe what we put into graphene!".

Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by mindcrime on Monday April 01, 2024 @12:27PM (#39895920)
That or "STOP putting THIS into Graphene now!!!"
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by luqtas on Monday April 01, 2024 @03:41PM (#39898262)
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Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by Maken on Monday April 01, 2024 @07:01AM (#39892757)
If the paper is accurate, it's actilly making fun of all the serious-sounding papers adding whatever to graphene and publishing it as noteworthy results. After reading way more papers that I wish I had to, I can say I would prefer if all paper titles were this accessible and honest.
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by atoav on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:46AM (#39892339)
And there we got the problem, a papers title not sounding serious doesn't mean it isn't — and more importantly: the opposite is true as well.

The credibility problems science has is because instead of replicating the contents of a paper people have seveloped and over-reliance on other peripheral metrics like which papers it has been published in, p-values and such. Relying on the seriousness of titles is just another of those distractions.

Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by lanternfish on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:29AM (#39892233)
On the other hand, the sanitized titles of scientific discourse can mask uncredibility and obscure the actual core thrust of a piece.
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by blegr on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:39AM (#39892297)
As opposed to inscrutable two-line titles full of the field’s buzzwords on top of papers that you have to parse for hours to realize the idea and results could have been written in one sentence?

Maybe I’ve read too many applied machine learning papers. As long as the funny title isn’t dishonest, I’m all for it.

Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by blegr on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:41AM (#39892305)
Actually, “clickbait” doesn’t really apply here, the paper supports the title.
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by SAI_Peregrinus on Monday April 01, 2024 @01:34PM (#39896701)
They tested bird crap, but not other sorts if crap. And which birds? Does species matter?
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by mort96 on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:44AM (#39892331)
Has the word click-bait lost all its meaning now
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by gorjusborg on Monday April 01, 2024 @07:32AM (#39892993)
No. It now means 'content that offends my refined sensibilities'.

(But I'm with you, words matter, and I loved your comment).

Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by meltea on Monday April 01, 2024 @10:57AM (#39894793)
Czechs trying to be funny...
Re:Will Any Crap We Put into Graphene Increase Its Electroca... by stavros on Monday April 01, 2024 @11:03AM (#39894874)
Funniness check passed!