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Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by wintermutestwin on Sunday March 31, 2024 @09:47PM (#39890103)
For me, Japan’s secret tourism weapon is ubiquitous restroom access. In most EU and US cities, I waste tons of time trying to find a place to pee and it severely eats into my availability to shop or choose a well rated restaurant. Sorry, I walked past your cool looking shop at high speed because I was about to piss my pants. I end up with such a sour view of those cities probably because I am dehydrated and going through caffeine withdrawal. On my last trip to Japan, I averaged 20km of walking each day.

If your city can’t accommodate basic human needs, it doesn’t deserve my tourist $.

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by tkgally on Sunday March 31, 2024 @11:39PM (#39890711)
Long-time Japan resident here. I agree. And public restrooms have been improving. While I still, very occasionally, encounter one that has old or broken equipment or that needs cleaning, overall they are much cleaner and more pleasant than they were forty-one years ago, when I moved here. Restrooms in trains stations in particular have improved immensely.

If I were asked to guess why restrooms in Japan are good and getting better, I would suggest a number of possible factors: public pressure on municipalities and businesses to create a positive experience for both residents and tourists; very little crime; large-scale homelessness being limited to a few parts of Tokyo, Osaka, Kawasaki, Yokohama, and one or two other large cities; and a widespread attitude that a lack of clean, available restrooms is abnormal and needs to be fixed.

A boom in tourism since COVID may be creating a challenge, though. The only two times recently when I have had trouble finding a public restroom were when I happened to go to areas crowded again with tourists: Asakusa in Tokyo and Namba in Osaka. I saw shops in both places with signs up in Japanese, English, and Chinese saying they didn’t have restrooms, presumably to keep tourists from coming in just to use the facilities. I can’t remember ever seeing that in non-touristy areas.

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by dbelford on Sunday March 31, 2024 @11:56PM (#39890775)
The recent movie Perfect Days (2023) seems to reflect this as well.

From wikipedia: "[Director Wim] Wenders was invited to Tokyo by Koji Yanai to observe the Tokyo Toilet Project, a project in which Japanese public toilets were redesigned in 17 locations throughout Shibuya with the help of 16 creators invited from around the world. Wenders was invited to take a look at the uniqueness of each of these facilities. At first, the producers envisioned Wenders would make a short film or series of short films on the facilities, but he opted for a feature film"

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by rawgabbit on Monday April 01, 2024 @10:23AM (#39894457)
In Asakusa and other tourist places I typically go to 7-11. Hit the toilet immediately and buy a drink and snack and sit down to rest my sore feet. Has that changed?
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by tkgally on Monday April 01, 2024 @08:31PM (#39901079)
Probably not. It’s only relatively recently—that is, relative to my four decades in Japan—that convenience stores have offered restroom access, and I often forget about them when I need to go. Thanks for the reminder.
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by jen729w on Sunday March 31, 2024 @10:09PM (#39890220)
Full agree.

Come to Australia! Dunnys everywhere mate.

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by bombcar on Sunday March 31, 2024 @10:25PM (#39890307)
My secret shame is always carrying Here maps with lists of all McDonalds. Wi-Fi and restrooms what more do you need?
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by bboygravity on Monday April 01, 2024 @04:08AM (#39891810)
There are cities where that won't work: Lisbon (you need a code from the receipt to enter the bathroom).
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by bombcar on Monday April 01, 2024 @12:20PM (#39895834)
Lisbon was where I pioneered it; you might have to buy something cheap, but at least you have a restroom available.

If you're really penny pinching, the ground is often littered with receipts.

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by wintermutestwin on Monday April 01, 2024 @04:30PM (#39898876)
If I am near a McDonalds while I am touring a city, it generally means I have made poor route decisions.
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by dewey on Sunday March 31, 2024 @10:58PM (#39890489)
In return, we do have ubiquitous trash cans in EU and US cities, which are hard to come by in Japan.
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by CobaltFire on Sunday March 31, 2024 @11:50PM (#39890747)
Every konbini and vending machine has one, and those are EVERYWHERE.

I'm not sure how it's hard to find one.

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by dewey on Monday April 01, 2024 @12:07AM (#39890827)
The vending machines often have ones with a bottle shaped hole explicitly telling you to only throw bottles in there.
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by mitthrowaway2 on Monday April 01, 2024 @12:57AM (#39891052)
Vending machines do not have garbage cans. If you think they do, you're making a mistake.

Combini have been increasingly restricting access to the garbage can.

They've also been disappearing from train stations, where they used to be common.

It's interestingly a similar dynamic to washrooms in other countries: if only a few places have them, they get harder for those places to maintain as they get used so heavily. So nobody wants to maintain them anymore. On the other hand, when they're ubiquitous, it's easy to offer as a free service, because it will only be lightly used.

Because of the lack of garbage cans, I also reduce my consumption. That popsicle looks delicious but I don't want to walk around holding a popsicle stick for an hour, no thanks.

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by fragmede on Monday April 01, 2024 @01:20AM (#39891141)
You put it back in the plastic, fold it up, and put it in your bag and take it home with you.
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by mitthrowaway2 on Monday April 01, 2024 @01:51AM (#39891241)
For some items that still gets quite messy! Especially things like kinako dango, with powder falling out of their crinkly plastic containers that don't seal shut. It's simply something of a deterrent that makes me think twice about if I should buy something, when I'll be carrying it around the rest of the day until I get home.
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by jesterson on Monday April 01, 2024 @01:43AM (#39891217)
By far not every vending machine has it and even if it does - it's for cans/bottles only.

Konbini are nowhere close to EVERYWHERE. Just because you went to Tokyo city centre doesn't mean japan is same everywhere

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by CobaltFire on Monday April 01, 2024 @10:05AM (#39894321)
I lived all over Kyushu, in Tokyo, in Nagoya, and in Hiroshima. I lived there off and on between 2005 and 2020.

Most of the vending machines I saw had both types next to them, and I never had an issue with accessing a trash can in a konbini.

I suppose we just had very different experiences.

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by elevatedastalt on Sunday March 31, 2024 @11:11PM (#39890585)
And yet Japanese towns are cleaner and less grimy.
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by pezezin on Monday April 01, 2024 @08:00AM (#39893190)
Japan is absolutely full of grimy streets and decaying buildings. Come on, outside of a few core neighborhoods, most Japanese towns and cities are ugly as sin.
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by arccy on Monday April 01, 2024 @03:13AM (#39891586)
every convenience store has one, and those are everywhere
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by corimaith on Monday April 01, 2024 @03:53AM (#39891737)
In Hong Kong or other developed East Asian cities we have both :)
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by dewey on Monday April 01, 2024 @04:06AM (#39891801)
One of the many reasons why HK is my favorite place to be!
Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by bboygravity on Monday April 01, 2024 @04:06AM (#39891802)
Random tips:

Never go to Netherlands or Germany. Not a single (free) public toilet seems to exist there and the few they do have will make you pay at least 1 EUR per pee.

Switzerland and France has (free) public toilets AFAIK.

Portugal has free public toilets in almost every grocery store and public library.

Re:Influencers: Japan's secret weapon to promote niche touri... by ProllyInfamous on Monday April 01, 2024 @11:56AM (#39895561)
>ubiquitous restroom access.

I think the antithesis of Japan would be NYC, where even as paying customer many locations don't have accessible facilities.

If you think the reason your city/subway "smells like piss" isn't because of lack of restrooms, then you're wrong councilperson.