Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by arethuza on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:14AM
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Can I suggest adding data from Historic Scotland - I'm sitting looking out my office window at a huge castle sitting on an old volcano and it's not on your list:
Also, might be worth adding the five Scottish ski centers to your list of things to do - they generally need all the help they can get regarding publicity. The Winterhighland site is excellent:
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @08:01AM
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I'm using Flickr's API for getting photos at the moment (it's actually a really good API), and I'd definitely like to give people a more visual way of browsing the places.
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by fiznool on Thursday May 03, 2012 @08:14AM
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Awesome project. One of those things I can see will be really useful.
One suggestion: make it responsive. The design lends itself well to mobilising: shrink the map view, put the columns into tabs, etc. This would be an even better resource for using when you are out and about, especially as it could use the HTML5 geolocation API to work out where you are and what is close by.
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @08:37AM
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I toyed with the idea of making it responsive when I first built the layout but opted for a fixed design to save on time. It's a feature I'd really like to get into the site soon as I've already felt the pain of navigating it on my own phone.
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @06:48AM
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Now with much more data!
I submitted my hobby project Days Out Near Me a few weeks back. I've tried to take on a lot of the great feedback I've had and I've made a number of big improvements to how it works. The site's goal is to aggregate a lot of events & venues for days out into one searchable database. It now grabs data from National Trust, English Heritage, The Forestry Commission, Cadw, and National Museum Wales. I'm working on support for people to submit their own events/places (which is one of the primary goals of the site).
I'd really like some more feedback and advice from people; what I've had so far has been great but I want as much as possible to help me improve the application and provide a great service to users. This is the first personal project I've launched and I'd be incredibly grateful for any/all feedback.
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by oracuk on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:26AM
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This is a great site, will likely be very handy for me over the summer.
Couple of things that immediately jumped out as useful additions for my particular use case:
1) A 'family friendly' filter on places
2) A 'kids' filter on events
3) A filter based on distance
4) Even better a filter based on how long it takes to drive to the event or the place (maybe using Google Maps directions estimates?)
I'm definitely going to use this over the next few weeks.
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @08:00AM
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1/2: This is something I really want to implement, as finding family days out is one of my main goals.
3: In the works!
4: I've had this suggestion before and I think it'd be a great feature; I'm looking into it :D
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:12AM
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Ah yes, I (slightly) forgot about the /places and /events pages, as they were mostly added in for SEO purposes. They're next on my list to tidy up, however!
I need to figure out a better format for the dates, as there are a number of possibilities that will cause it to wrap. I was thinking about truncating the month name if it's too long.
In theory they should have maintained the links/email links from the source copy but I think my HTML filter is a bit too strong (also note the lack of paragraphs). It's on the to-do list :)
Print stylesheet is on its way soon!
Browsing around the map is a work in progress; at the moment it shows the places currently shown in the list below, but I definitely want it to list everything and pull them in as you browse.
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by polshaw on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:02AM
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Very nice, great design. I've often considered this an opportunity.. although managing the events to a high standard is a difficult challenge (perhaps consider (carefully) some element of crowd-sourcing?).
What I would like to see, is some way to get photos related to a place/event (some of their own websites had none). I might usually get them from google maps (either streetview or images w/ location).. but a different approach could work too (image search?).
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:26AM
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Aye, managing the events/places is the trickiest part at the moment. One of my main goals is to have people submitting their own events/places or submitting those they know of near them; I can't index everything by myself, unfortunately! I'm working on an admin panel which will allow me to moderate submissions to help keep it clean and helpful.
In theory a lot of the places (and events too if they have past versions of the same event) will show photos from Flickr. It matches on the Flickr place ID and pulls in photos mentioning the name in that area. However it does mean that a number of places have no photos, which I'd love to improve upon. Allowing people to add their own photos might be a good improvement.
I'm trying to think of a way of including things like walks; data that is neither a place nor an event, but something to do at a place/in an area. I'm currently listing activities (although they don't match up to every record yet) as general terms, but I'd like to find a way to list more specific activities!
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by nicholassmith on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:08AM
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Nice! Good work!
Some of your look-up details are a bit off though, if I click 'Newcastle' I get a list of things so we'll pick 'Get Outdoors and Dirty' as it's the first, and quite frankly who can say no to getting dirty.
If you go into Newcastle it says 7 miles, which seems about right, however if you type Middlesbrough into the search box it'll also list it but it's about 20 miles off (38 miles vs about 59ish in real life).
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:30AM
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Thanks for the feedback!
The geocoding can be a little odd at times and I'm keeping track of things like this to help me improve it. The first thing I'll do is ensure that all the city/area links on the homepage point to more or less the center of that city/area; some seem to be in very odd places. Any reports like this are really useful :D
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by andrewaylett on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:24AM
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You might want to filter your gazetteer search results better: searching for "Ipswich" gave me a town in Australia, and searching for "Norwich" gave me a town in the US...
To reproduce, click the "Ipswich" link on the homepage, then put your cursor in the location box at the top-right and hit enter.
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:32AM
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Gah, I thought I'd fixed all those odd locations. I'm using Nomanatim for geocoding, which seems to pick up a lot of the 'new world' locations rather than the originals - I'll go through them all again later and fix the wrong ones!
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:54AM
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Ooh, I've not seen Nerdy Day Trips before; I'll have to get in touch and see if they have an API (probably a better chance than the others I've been working on).
Location data like that would be very useful (and I'd be very grateful for it), as it would help resolve a number of issues with geocoding some of these places. There's probably a castle or two that are registered as being in a terraced street, for example :D
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @11:45AM
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Looks like it's the same setup as Cardiff Castle; most likely run by the local council. These kinda one-off places are what will hopefully be easily added when I open up event/place submission to users; which I'm hoping to get up in the next week or so :)
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @08:38AM
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Thanks for the response!
I've mentioned in another comment that the green seems to vary wildly on different displays, so I'm looking into improvements I can make there.
Re:Show HN: Find days out near you in the UK
by robotmay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:57AM
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It seems to vary wildly depending on monitors; on my Mac it's bright grass-green, on my desktop it seems to be more of a muted snot. It's on my list of things to fix!
http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/
Also, might be worth adding the five Scottish ski centers to your list of things to do - they generally need all the help they can get regarding publicity. The Winterhighland site is excellent:
http://www.winterhighland.info/
Ski centres are something I hadn't considered but would fit very well with the idea of the site. Thanks for the suggestions! :)
NB Geograph is awesome: http://www.geograph.org.uk/
One suggestion: make it responsive. The design lends itself well to mobilising: shrink the map view, put the columns into tabs, etc. This would be an even better resource for using when you are out and about, especially as it could use the HTML5 geolocation API to work out where you are and what is close by.
Great work!
Thanks for the great feedback :)
I submitted my hobby project Days Out Near Me a few weeks back. I've tried to take on a lot of the great feedback I've had and I've made a number of big improvements to how it works. The site's goal is to aggregate a lot of events & venues for days out into one searchable database. It now grabs data from National Trust, English Heritage, The Forestry Commission, Cadw, and National Museum Wales. I'm working on support for people to submit their own events/places (which is one of the primary goals of the site).
I'd really like some more feedback and advice from people; what I've had so far has been great but I want as much as possible to help me improve the application and provide a great service to users. This is the first personal project I've launched and I'd be incredibly grateful for any/all feedback.
Couple of things that immediately jumped out as useful additions for my particular use case: 1) A 'family friendly' filter on places 2) A 'kids' filter on events 3) A filter based on distance 4) Even better a filter based on how long it takes to drive to the event or the place (maybe using Google Maps directions estimates?)
I'm definitely going to use this over the next few weeks.
Thanks for the feedback!
I'm constantly playing with the design and I've also found it can be a bit bright; I'll be looking to refine it soon.
UI: Items with 'August' in their date make the panel break onto a newline
Items with an email could auto mailto: link the email http://daysoutnearme.com/events/simply-walk-2012-05-03
Print button on item: print preview opens with the body copy overlaying the map (print media query?)
Browsing around on the map doesn't reload pins for the area you browse to, they stay as the /hubs/city you selected
UI: All events http://daysoutnearme.com/events could use a lick of paint.
Bravo! Finding it hard to fault, hence the nitpick comments above. :)
I need to figure out a better format for the dates, as there are a number of possibilities that will cause it to wrap. I was thinking about truncating the month name if it's too long.
In theory they should have maintained the links/email links from the source copy but I think my HTML filter is a bit too strong (also note the lack of paragraphs). It's on the to-do list :)
Print stylesheet is on its way soon!
Browsing around the map is a work in progress; at the moment it shows the places currently shown in the list below, but I definitely want it to list everything and pull them in as you browse.
Thanks for the feedback!
What I would like to see, is some way to get photos related to a place/event (some of their own websites had none). I might usually get them from google maps (either streetview or images w/ location).. but a different approach could work too (image search?).
Another possibility would be to add walks.
In theory a lot of the places (and events too if they have past versions of the same event) will show photos from Flickr. It matches on the Flickr place ID and pulls in photos mentioning the name in that area. However it does mean that a number of places have no photos, which I'd love to improve upon. Allowing people to add their own photos might be a good improvement.
I'm trying to think of a way of including things like walks; data that is neither a place nor an event, but something to do at a place/in an area. I'm currently listing activities (although they don't match up to every record yet) as general terms, but I'd like to find a way to list more specific activities!
Thanks for the feedback, it's much appreciated :)
Some of your look-up details are a bit off though, if I click 'Newcastle' I get a list of things so we'll pick 'Get Outdoors and Dirty' as it's the first, and quite frankly who can say no to getting dirty. If you go into Newcastle it says 7 miles, which seems about right, however if you type Middlesbrough into the search box it'll also list it but it's about 20 miles off (38 miles vs about 59ish in real life).
The geocoding can be a little odd at times and I'm keeping track of things like this to help me improve it. The first thing I'll do is ensure that all the city/area links on the homepage point to more or less the center of that city/area; some seem to be in very odd places. Any reports like this are really useful :D
http://visitbristol.co.uk/things-to-do
Particularly page:
http://visitbristol.co.uk/things-to-do/attractions
Has the things like the zoo, aquarium, ss great britian and so on.
To reproduce, click the "Ipswich" link on the homepage, then put your cursor in the location box at the top-right and hit enter.
Nice for the places that have data, though :).
Also, if you'd like lat/long information for all the UK places in my book, The Geek Atlas, I'd be happy to supply.
Location data like that would be very useful (and I'd be very grateful for it), as it would help resolve a number of issues with geocoding some of these places. There's probably a castle or two that are registered as being in a terraced street, for example :D