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Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:54AM (#38781131)
Tell me about it. I've been plucking away at an online business since 2004. It makes just barely enough money that I'm not quite willing to shut it down but not enough to get excited about or quit my regular job. Hate it.
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by eastbound on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:56AM (#38781505)
It’s really hard to change project and recognize the blurredd line between “it doesn’t work” and “I didn’t put enough effort into it”.

My first product worked, but very average. My second project worked excellently, there was quasi-immediate traction. That second thing was resolving an actual business issue.

It’s stagnating now. It’s probably because, even though I don’t feel it, I’m bored (it’s been 7 years). I have difficulty waking up in the morning.

You need to innovate. If not just for your brain and sanity, the market didn’t recognize your first product. Evaluate whether you should trust the sign that the market gives you.

Launch a second product.

Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by rainbowskys on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:00PM (#38785933)
Do you have a way I can contact you? I’m looking for a business to acquire and I wonder if there would be a fit.
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by MaKey on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:59AM (#38781154)
What about selling it on Acquire?
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by collaborative on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:35AM (#38781377)
Would you sell thousands of your man hours for 10,000 dollars?
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by codingdave on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:56AM (#38781497)
Those hours are gone. If I am no longer interested in a side project, would I sell it for $10K vs. just turning it off? Absolutely!
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by nine_k on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @08:10AM (#38781583)
Think not about the hours you have spent, but about the hours remaining in your life. They are finite. Do you want to spend more of them on that thing that has turned dreary? If you can afford it, it's usually better to call it a day and free up time and mental energy for something new and better.
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by jddj on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:39AM (#38781398)
If the result of those thousands of hours is worth <= 10000 by some valuation method which makes sense to me.

More nuanced answer: I have a project that I've been plugging away at for years now. It may never pay for itself if I value my time at the same rate that I charge it out to others, but in that time it's improved the quality and speed of my other outputs significantly.

In that regard it's probably already paid for itself, but I wouldn't sell it because it continues to be valuable to me both in that regard and as a creative outlet.

If it were a throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks saas I'd have no problem selling it for a reasonable valuation of future earnings.

Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by collaborative on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @11:23AM (#38783470)
Wish I could edit my comment as I see it has triggered many responses. To me, the effort of closing a deal to sell something that's not losing money isn't worth $10,000. I'd rather keep it alive and let users enjoy it. If I'm losing money, that's a different story, of course. But since selling on Acquire tops at $10,000, I decide that it's not worth my time. I might think differently if instead of $10,000 it was $100,000. That would pay off part of my mortgage. But having to do KT, sign documents, consult with lawyers, do loads of admin for $10,000? No way. I am almost offended
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by ryandrake on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @12:34PM (#38784289)
Maybe people are assuming it's $10,000 net after the cost of lawyers and "admin" or whatever it takes to sell your thing on Acquire. $10,000 is a lot of money, if I had some hobby project that was break even and I was getting sick of dealing with it, I'd even sell it for $1,000, let alone $10,000 which can be life changing!
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by lesuorac on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @12:49PM (#38784439)
Even if it meant you can't work on something similar to that hobby project again?
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by ryandrake on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:15PM (#38785432)
Probably. OP said he can't get excited about the project, and hates the situation, so sure. For a few grand in the pocket, no big deal. Is this really a standard term for selling a failed business? You can't work on something similar ever again for the rest of your life?
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by mathgeek on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:54AM (#38781482)
If those hours are in the past, sure. All jokes aside, you’d be selling an asset, not the time you already put into it.
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by mritchie712 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:41AM (#38781409)
> Hate it.

If I was at that point, probably.

The thousands of man hours are a sunk cost. If you wouldn't start the business today knowing what you know now, you should probably sell.

Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by szundi on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @08:40AM (#38781814)
Hire someone and produce proof he can run the business as a manager - then you can have at least 5-7xEBITDA
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @09:43PM (#38789404)
That's also part of the problem. I don't think I could find anyone competent enough for less than $150K or so, and then we'd be losing money. Plus finding them and training them is hard.
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by j4yav on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @09:29AM (#38782227)
Why sell them when you carry them with you to your grave?
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by codegeek on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:08AM (#38782669)
Depends. What will I get for it 2 years from now ? Would someone even pay 10K ? You need to know when to let something go. SOmetimes, at a huge loss. And I am a founder so I know how hard it is to let things go that you put your blood and sweat into.
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by icedchai on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @12:20PM (#38784129)
If it meant I didn't have to spend thousands of more hours working on something that doesn't interest me anymore, sure.
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by j45 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @12:40PM (#38784357)
There’s opportunity cost of what worse might be on the radar.

Sunk time isn’t always invaluable.

Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by fasterik on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:32PM (#38785606)
Sunk cost fallacy. It doesn't matter how much time or money you've put into something, the question is always what is the best use of my time and money today? The value of something is what someone else is willing to pay for it.
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @09:54PM (#38789470)
Folks below are saying Acquire caps out at 10K? That's a joke, my business isn't doing that poorly. Thanks for the suggestion though
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by MaKey on Monday January 08, 2024 @08:06PM (#38920893)
It doesn't cap out at 10k, it was just a number chosen by the poster. Acquire takes a 4% fee if a deal closes.
Re:2023: Focusing on a single product pays off by rainbowskys on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:58PM (#38785923)
Do you have a way I can contact you? I’m looking for a business to acquire and I wonder if there would be a fit.