JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by mensetmanusman on Thursday December 14, 2023 @12:46PM (#38644402)

It's kind of fun to think that at any moment something might pop and our entire solar system would disappear in a blink of an eye.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by strictnein on Thursday December 14, 2023 @02:51PM (#38646369)

Reporting from two hours in the future (relatively): hasn't happened yet.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by robotresearcher on Thursday December 14, 2023 @04:15PM (#38647353)

If the sun went pop, the Earth wouldn't notice for more than eight minutes, and Neptune not for 4 hours.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by quickthrower2 on Thursday December 14, 2023 @05:15PM (#38648088)

If the cause of the pop is moving at the speed of light too. But if it wasn't we might get an early warning.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by lostapathy on Thursday December 14, 2023 @01:24PM (#38645008)

Our sun isn’t massive enough to ever go supernova.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by ceejayoz on Thursday December 14, 2023 @01:49PM (#38645392)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-Earth_supernova

It wouldn't wipe out the solar system, but might have harmful impacts on our biosphere.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by TheEzEzz on Thursday December 14, 2023 @01:30PM (#38645117)

Supernova are powerful enough that even a star in a different solar system going nova can kill you, if it's a "nearby" system. But I believe there aren't any stars close enough that would go supernova any time soon.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by rnk on Thursday December 14, 2023 @03:03PM (#38646533)

It's always the one you don't expect that gets you.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by jsbisviewtiful on Thursday December 14, 2023 @03:36PM (#38646897)

A good premise for a sci-fi series: In the distant future, a large fleet of earth's best and brightest travels the stars while desperately trying to invent Earth's last ditch-effort to save its 12 billion inhabitants from a soon-to-be cataclysmic, near-earth supernovae: FTL travel. After decades of progress finally nears fruition, the fleet permanently loses contact with earth; humanity's home Solar System's remnants lost to the beautiful, nightmare... The fleet of 80,000 now works to save itself, the last of humanity.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by exebook on Thursday December 14, 2023 @09:45PM (#38650578)

Sounds like a cross over of The Age of Supernova and Tri-body Problem. In the former Supernova radiation kills all people on earth except kids under 13.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by shiroiuma on Friday December 15, 2023 @05:17AM (#38652727)

Sounds like Battlestar Galactica without the Cylons.

Perhaps the story could have Cylons in it, but here they're allies with the humans, but after the supernova, some religious leader convinces most of them that their god wants them to destroy the humans.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by tejtm on Thursday December 14, 2023 @08:02PM (#38649757)

Every star that is not our sun is in a different solar system. Could you have meant to say a star in a different galaxy could toast us?

I think, ball park, a SN 500 light years out is considered safe e.g. Betelgeuse. Our Milky Way galaxy is thought to be roughly 100,000 light years in diameter so we should be safe from all but those within about a hundredth of the radius of our galaxy from us.

space is big ...

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by bmitc on Friday December 15, 2023 @02:51AM (#38651984)

I don't think they were using the solar system, as in our solar system, as their frame of reference.

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by gratitoad on Thursday December 14, 2023 @11:07PM (#38650883)

Here’s a fun theoretical existential threat: false vacuum decay. If our universe is in a false vacuum state (maybe yes? maybe no? we don’t know!) and that vacuum someday suddenly shifts into a true vacuum state (decays), then worst case scenario this change propagates everywhere instantaneously and we experience “complete cessation of fundamental forces” including elementary particles and structures. Everything everywhere wiped out in a blink.

We can take some comfort in the fact that we’d never know it happened, and theorists have asserted that it’s highly unlikely a false vacuum of any size could exist for more than a moment in the presence of gravitational forces, plus physics within the bubble would be “super weird”, I think is the technical term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum#Existential_thr...

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Re:JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shatter... by euroderf on Friday December 15, 2023 @08:45AM (#38654104)

Isn't "false vacuum state" equivalent to a non-zero vacuum energy ? Which we know is the case, because virtual particle pairs blinking into and out of existence ? Did I leave something important out ?

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