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Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by jgilias on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:27AM (#38543555)
Why though? Did they just figure they’d grant one, and he just went ahead and accepted? Or is there a reason he needs one that wasn’t explained? I know that people sometimes shop around for a passport from whatever EU country for reasons, but Serbia isn’t one. (With all due respect to Serbia)
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by neom on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:35AM (#38543649)
Not the answer to your question but your question did lead me to something fun:

"The company desperately needed the Macintosh to be a hit. Instead, after an initial flurry of interest, sales of the new computer came in far below expectations. The Macintosh was underpowered, and the lack of software for it kept business customers away. In April 1985, Sculley convinced the Apple board to strip Jobs of his management duties. Sculley put out a statement that Jobs would continue to be a “creator of powerful ideas and the champion of Apple’s spirit,” but in reality Jobs suddenly found himself in a no-man’s land at the company he’d created. He was kicked out of his office and moved to a small building across the street, *which he nicknamed Siberia*. For a couple of months he dragged himself into the office to take the occasional phone call, but with depression setting in, he eventually stopped visiting the Apple campus altogether.

That September, Jobs officially cut his ties to Apple and announced plans to start a new company, NeXT, taking with him a handful of Apple engineers. "

Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by kami71 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:41AM (#38543720)
Siberia != Serbia :) Maybe you misread something, or I'm misunderstanding?
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by neom on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:45AM (#38543760)
Ah the good old Dyslexia ADHD combo. You're right I'm a moron. Happy Wednesday! :)
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by helmsb on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @12:56PM (#38547295)
No you’re NOT a moron, just a minor mistake. Have a wonderfully Wednesday.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by wooque on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @10:34AM (#38545193)
Election is in 10 days, so government is desperate to show how cool they are. He probably got paid few millions bucks, so they could parade him around and give him citizenship.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by jasonvm on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @11:49AM (#38546323)
Considering how wealthy he is, I can't imagine a few million bucks could possibly sway him.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by rasz on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:28PM (#38549713)
yet he fronted some scam crypto
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by jacquesm on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @02:37PM (#38548462)
That's a very uncharitable thing to say.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by unsupp0rted on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:31AM (#38543606)
This is neither here nor there, but Serbia is an EU Candidate, likely to get membership in the coming years.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by kranke155 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:37AM (#38543681)
Under current trajectory it would be a Russian-friendly Trojan horse inside the EU. Doubt it’s goanna happen.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by yreg on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:53AM (#38543870)
Serbian accession is not at all likely in the coming years. They have had full candidate status since 2012.

Last year the European Parliament passed a resolution saying it "strongly regrets Serbia’s non-alignment with EU sanctions against Russia, which damages its EU accession process." There's also the problem regarding their relationship with Kosovo.

Also, only 34-43% of Serbians want to join according to polls. Compared to Albania's 97% and Montenegro's 79%.

I think Albania, Montenegro, North Macedonia and even Ukraine are more likely to join the EU next.

Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by unsupp0rted on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @12:48PM (#38547188)
I've lived in both Serbia and Albania fairly recently. Yes, 90-something % of Albanians would be glad to instantly improve their standard of living. Culturally (i.e. 'European Values') they're far from aligned with the EU right now.

Serbia, on the other hand, does largely share "European Values", more and more so every year.

Its political alignments can change very quickly. But the cultural trajectory is clear.

Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by yreg on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:09PM (#38549486)
Interesting, could you explain in what ways is Serbia more aligned with the EU?
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by gambiting on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:55AM (#38543905)
All stars point to that likelihood being pretty much zero. There is no apettite from either side to push the process along, other than from few outspoken politicians.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by layer8 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:39AM (#38543705)
Given the current situation in Serbia (e.g. [0]), it doesn’t exactly shed a good light on Wozniak.

[0] https://intellinews.com/interview-media-expert-says-no-limit...

Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by yreg on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:57AM (#38543926)
What? You are saying it as if Woz was somehow responsible or endorsed it.

Edit: read reply for more context

Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by layer8 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:19AM (#38544185)
“Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić met in Belgrade with computer engineer and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak.” And didn’t you see the photo and the video (time mark ~32:00) in TFA?

Also from https://apnews.com/article/wozniak-apple-serbia-passport-ele...:

“The convivial Wozniak, who teamed up with the late Steve Jobs to found Apple in 1976, arrived in Serbia ahead of Dec. 17 parliamentary and local elections, in an apparent boost for President Aleksandar Vučić and his populist right-wing governing party.

Wozniak said he feels “so lucky” to be in Serbia and that he and his wife Janet, who is also getting a passport, will from now on “promote” Serbia. He said he will become a Serb living in the U.S.

Vučić said at a joint news conference in Belgrade that “it is an honor” for Serbia to deliver the passports to Wozniak and his wife.”

Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by jacquesm on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:27AM (#38544274)
Woz is being played.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by layer8 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:44AM (#38544533)
Probably, though I’m surprised he doesn’t realize it. He should know about Serbia’s political situation if he travels there, and especially when he’s invited there.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by jacquesm on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:45AM (#38544545)
He's just too nice.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by layer8 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:47AM (#38544572)
“Naive” would be more fitting here. At his age, he should have learned a thing or two about the world.
Re:Serbia grants citizenship to Steve Wozniak by jacquesm on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:48AM (#38544588)
Chances are that that is what got us Apple...