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Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by tasubotadas on Sunday November 12, 2023 @08:47AM (#38240020)
Anyone used it? Is it any good?
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by baka367 on Sunday November 12, 2023 @08:52AM (#38240064)
It feels like a great material at explaining the field to new joiners.

My team is currently migrating from software to data science and this publication feels exactly like something that would bridge the gap

Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by nerdponx on Sunday November 12, 2023 @02:42PM (#38243452)
What company do you work at where they're willing to train a bunch of developers up to data science from scratch? That's a multi-year investment if you want a team that can actually solve real problems without causing more problems.
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by shapefrog on Sunday November 12, 2023 @03:28PM (#38243796)
data science isnt that hard!
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by mjburgess on Sunday November 12, 2023 @03:43PM (#38243906)
Well, it's mostly impossible -- i guess that's a certain sort of way it isnt hard.
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by nerdponx on Sunday November 12, 2023 @03:54PM (#38243999)
It's not hard in the same way software engineering isn't hard. That is to say: it's hard to do well.
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by troelsSteegin on Sunday November 12, 2023 @09:30AM (#38240350)
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by hackernewds on Sunday November 12, 2023 @11:55AM (#38241883)
Would be helpful to feed into custom chatgpt that ask the gpt questions directly
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by bazmattaz on Sunday November 12, 2023 @03:02PM (#38243601)
I just tried that but there is pagination. Would love to know if we can instruct GPT4 to click through the pages
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by jiriro on Sunday November 12, 2023 @01:56PM (#38243044)
Oh, thank you. The original covers almost 50% of the screen (iphone) with the static heading!
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by dang on Sunday November 12, 2023 @03:34PM (#38243842)
Ok, we've changed to that from https://datascience.stanford.edu/programs/stanford-data-scie... above. Thanks!
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by alwaysrunning on Sunday November 12, 2023 @09:46AM (#38240489)
This is a joke right? I just woke up so maybe my mind isn't functioning quite right yet?

Stanford president resigns after fallout from falsified data in his research https://www.npr.org/2023/07/19/1188828810/stanford-universit...

Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by simonw on Sunday November 12, 2023 @10:03AM (#38240656)
I genuinely don't see how that's relevant here.

Are you saying that if a president of a university is caught doing something bad and fired/resigns for it then every piece of output from that university related to that field should be disregarded?

Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by alwaysrunning on Sunday November 12, 2023 @10:37AM (#38241045)
I'm saying the timing is not the best. Read the room first. And I'm not saying he "was caught doing something bad" I am saying he is the President of the university, the leader, and he is a fraud.

This isn't a one-time thing, and this fraud stretches back to before he was president, there were already rumors of his fraud in his community, and they hired him anyway knowing he could be a fraud. He also worked to stop this from coming to light, and to this day hasn't really admitted he was at fault except to say 'I could have done better', he is also stil a professor there. A 17 yo can figure this out but a university board can't? come on.

"Marc Tessier-Lavigne, who has spent seven years as president, authored 12 reports that contained falsified information"

What kind of legal threats did you receive? Stephen Neal, the chair emeritus of Cooley, one of the biggest law firms in the Silicon Valley area, represented Marc Tessier-Lavigne and sent a number of aggressive letters requesting retractions or seeking to block the publication of articles that detailed Tessier-Lavigne’s involvement in alleged incidents of fraud. Neal is also a former attorney for [disgraced former Theranos CEO] Elizabeth Holmes.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2023-07-21/how-stanfor...

Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by Jtsummers on Sunday November 12, 2023 @10:41AM (#38241094)
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Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by z2h-a6n on Sunday November 12, 2023 @10:51AM (#38241206)
As other commenters have noted, large universities are quite heterogeneous and their administrations are fairly decoupled from their research activity, except in a big-picture sense. The timing is basically irrelevant because you might as well regard Stanford Data Science and the Stanford University Administration as separate entities for all directly-research-related purposes.

I'm a researcher at a large university (admittedly a grad student, and therefore more insulated from university administrivia than a professor), and I don't even know who my university's president is.

Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by sieste on Sunday November 12, 2023 @11:04AM (#38241338)
I didn't know about the story when posting this. I also don't think it's relevant, even in a read-the-room sense. Bad press about the leader of an institution isn't a reason to stop discussing the institution's work.
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by panarky on Sunday November 12, 2023 @11:53AM (#38241858)
Jan Hendrik Schön, a researcher at Bell Labs in the field of condensed matter physics, committed scientific fraud by fabricating and manipulating data in his research.

The fraud was discovered in 2002.

I'm thankful that most people can understand the difference between the institution from the fraudster, because Bell Labs has produced some amazing work since then.

Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by atrettel on Sunday November 12, 2023 @03:32PM (#38243825)
For those unfamiliar with the story of Jan Hendrik Schön, I suggest watching this excellent series of videos by BobbyBroccoli on YouTube [1-3]. The series does a good job breaking down the context and the situation that Schön was in, along with the incentives that encouraged Schön to commit fraud.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDoml-Db64

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riio1eKOSKg

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsSuhP60qnI

Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by HFguy on Sunday November 12, 2023 @09:57AM (#38240599)
Stanford is a big place. Would not disregard all the work from anyone connected just because of something the president did.
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by alwaysrunning on Sunday November 12, 2023 @10:38AM (#38241052)
See my comment above, I am sure there are great ppl that work there but the timing?
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by hackernewds on Sunday November 12, 2023 @11:50AM (#38241816)
should I wait 2 years then it's fine to use the data science handbook for my interview prep?
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by hackernewds on Sunday November 12, 2023 @11:54AM (#38241872)
"In summary, this handbook is a guide to making science more open, transparent, and reproducible by presenting best practices"
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by ulrischa on Sunday November 12, 2023 @02:37PM (#38243398)
Very cool that universities like Stanford that usually costs a lot of money offer their study material for free
Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by swayvil on Sunday November 12, 2023 @03:55PM (#38244004)
If your experimental method required you to abandon your life, move to a cave and do something weird 24-7, then practically nobody would do it.

Which would render any findings horse hockey. Because only a few lone weirdos could test it.

So "convenience" is constraining us here. A very narrow circle.

Re:Stanford Data Science Handbook by necrophcodr on Sunday November 12, 2023 @07:06PM (#38245466)
> While recording the versions of all packages used is a step in the right direction, an even more comprehensive solution is to package up the entire environment using something like Docker, or to use online computation, such as Google’s colaboratory notebooks.

An even better way would be to describe the environment using Guix with channels or something similar accompanying the code, or a Nix flake or any similar environment descriptions with fully fixed dependency chains. Docker can be _forced_ to use a fixed version, but any `apt update` will ruin that completely, and both Nix and Guix are tools that on top of providing these environments for executing code with the same set and versions of tools, also provide the ability to generate container images that can be shared.