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Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by 0cf8612b2e1e on Saturday October 21, 2023 @11:01AM (#37967360)
However, the score is frequently minimal, where they just take what it is in the front cash registers. Random website [0]

> The vast majority of bank robberies are relatively unsuccessful affairs, having netted criminals just $7,500 in 2010 on average, according to the FBI.

[0] https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/06/11/what-you-sho...

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by corbezzoli on Saturday October 21, 2023 @11:58AM (#37967902)
Maybe you don’t get rich, but 7,500 tax-free dollars for a 2-minute job sound like a good deal, once you get the hang of it.

Maybe I should switch careers…

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by seanmcdirmid on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:19PM (#37968116)
The risk isn’t worth it to most unless you are really desperate for a stay in the fed. At least you get fed and don’t sleep unsheltered.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by kortilla on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:27PM (#37968200)
Caught by a fed and thrown in the fed where at least you get fed.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by ZanyProgrammer on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:01PM (#37967929)
Assuming you don't get caught, which if you keep on bank robbing probably increases the odds you do.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by paulpauper on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:49PM (#37968429)
or be a politician. they seem to make a lot of $ for little work
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by amanaplanacanal on Saturday October 21, 2023 @01:25PM (#37968799)
They do work. Just not the work you want them to do.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by gosub100 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @01:24PM (#37968775)
bank robbery is automatically upgraded to the FBI and has (IIRC) a minimum sentence of 7 years, worse if you use a real weapon. I'm sure there are other ways to commit a petty offense or 2 that would net the same amount with less risk.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by dragonwriter on Saturday October 21, 2023 @01:30PM (#37968841)
Robbery has an under 25% clearance rate, but bank robbery has an over 60% clearance rate—the median bank robber gets prison (yes, 80% of stolen funds aren’t recovered, but how much of a prison term js getting away with $7,500 worth?)
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by Arainach on Saturday October 21, 2023 @01:45PM (#37968978)
Robbery is often committed by a single person. Bank robbery generally requires multiple, and often results in multiple charges per crime (which can skew clearance rates)
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by dragonwriter on Saturday October 21, 2023 @02:06PM (#37969153)
"You'll also likely have more people to split the money with" is further eroding the appeal of the $7,500 take.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by codedokode on Saturday October 21, 2023 @02:10PM (#37969184)
If bank robbery is less profitable than working for a minimum salary then why people do it?
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by dragonwriter on Saturday October 21, 2023 @02:18PM (#37969222)
Because as should be obvious to the most casual observer, assuming rationality combined with financially-return-focused utility functions produces a model of human behavior that bears basically no relationship to reality. (Which is more an answer to why the prior underlying your question is silly than it is an answer to the question, but...)
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by Spooky23 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @09:05PM (#37971955)
My brother is a detective. One of the early, surprising discoveries in career is that most criminals are dumb, fully driven by their Id. Basically, people driven by getting drugs or getting laid.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by sigmoid10 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:05PM (#37967967)
Seems like an amount the banks would have no problem sweeping under the rug. 7.5k should be a no-issue. A bank's existence is based on trust after all and if the public hears of this, the loss of trust will cost them a lot more in revenue than that puny amount. They might not even report it to insurance, because in the long run that could also end up costing them more due to increased premiums.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by kortilla on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:25PM (#37968177)
What? I don’t give a shit if my bank is robbed. FDIC insurance makes that a non-issue for the vast majority of the country.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by wannacboatmovie on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:36PM (#37968290)
What a silly, immature statement. Sounds like the typical reaction I hear to organized retail theft and the rioting and destruction of property back in 2020: "They have insurance."

As if the lack of consequences for perpetrators doesn't have consequences of its own. Insurance is not free money.

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by trelane on Saturday October 21, 2023 @01:09PM (#37968615)
I am pretty sure they were responding to the "lack of trust" point raised by the parent, not the crime itself.

Their point was that they aren't worried / don't lose trust in the bank if it gets robbed. Rather, the money is guaranteed, so they retain confidence in the bank even if it loses a lot of many due to a particularly successful robbery. Because they'll still get their deposit back.

This is 100% what the FDIC and NCUA are about: ensuring continued consumer confidence in their banks.

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by Libcat99 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @05:33PM (#37970653)
That's not trust in the bank though, that's trust in the system/fdic.

I think many would lose trust in their bank if they heard it was being robbed with abnormal regularity.

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by wkat4242 on Saturday October 21, 2023 @08:58PM (#37971915)
I would only if I had a safety deposit box there.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by Libcat99 on Sunday October 22, 2023 @10:15PM (#37980871)
It's of course your perogative to use businesses that don't protect themselves.

It's also your perogative to shop at shady websites, and hope your credit card will accept the fraud claim. It basically the same thing.

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by kortilla on Saturday October 21, 2023 @07:12PM (#37971334)
Read the fucking thread. I’m responding to banks trying to hide being robbed from their customers.

In no way do I condone robbery.

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by missedthecue on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:48PM (#37968423)
Insurance is not a free money generator though. Most homes are insured. Should we therefore not care about burglaries and break-ins?
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by saagarjha on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:55PM (#37968476)
Homes are somewhat different because it is a personal annoyance to replace what was lost, and there’s a sentimental value attached to most things which insurance wouldn’t cover. If I show up at the bank tomorrow and make a withdrawal and the money comes from insurance rather than the actual dollars I put in, who am I to care?
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by argiopetech on Saturday October 21, 2023 @01:28PM (#37968820)
When you use your insurance, your rates tend to go up. When costs go up, the bank passes those on to the customer. Now you pay more for banking, or receive less interest, or get worse service, or however they cover that cost. Perhaps it doesn't effect you (an individual) directly, but they increase the cost for commercial customers and those companies pass the cost on to you.

Now, if you don't care about that kind of creeping cost increase, I have a cloud architecture to sell you.

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by thfuran on Saturday October 21, 2023 @02:06PM (#37969154)
That has nothing whatsoever to do with trusting the bank.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by Libcat99 on Sunday October 22, 2023 @10:18PM (#37980887)
Would you trust a person who drove their car into the same pothole every day to make responsible decisions with driving when not near that pothole?

Why would you trust a bank, showing lax security in one aspect, to be stable overall?

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by kortilla on Saturday October 21, 2023 @07:14PM (#37971346)
We should care. Banks shouldn’t hide robberies.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by wavemode on Saturday October 21, 2023 @02:27PM (#37969293)
That's being rather generous re: the average consumer. Grandma with her retirement savings doesn't want to hear that her bank got robbed. You can try to explain to people that their money is safe by law but it doesn't mean public trust doesn't somewhat erode.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by kortilla on Saturday October 21, 2023 @07:13PM (#37971340)
It’s not, it’s the only reason a huge chunk of the population that lived through the financial crisis trusts banks at all.
Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by rvba on Saturday October 21, 2023 @02:49PM (#37969489)
You realize that as a client you pay for this?

My bank (outside of USA) offers interest lower than inflation.

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by coldtea on Saturday October 21, 2023 @04:38PM (#37970237)
>My bank (outside of USA) offers interest lower than inflation

It does, but absolutely not because of robberies

Re:In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour by MrFoof on Saturday October 21, 2023 @01:55PM (#37969072)
Indeed, banks have a lot less money up front and on-site now. A lot of this is how much is done electronically nowadays compared to decades ago, but a lot of this was change in protocol after big hits in the 1990s became too commonplace.

The Boston area was already particularly had hit during the 1990s, with multiple scores in the $120 - $500K range by just one gang, all laid out in the last paragraph: https://www.southcoasttoday.com/story/news/state/1997/12/23/...