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Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by BadBadJellyBean on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:32AM (#37691089)
Is this my fault because of all the free games I claimed?
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by voisin on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:35AM (#37691137)
Tim Sweeney would like us all to agree that it is Apple’s fault for their App Store policies.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by bpiche on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:45AM (#37691286)
And he'd blame Valve, too. EGS might be great for devs, but it's not good for users. It's not a big conspiracy against him. People just don't want to use the store! Whining in the face of obvious failure makes you look like a real loser.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by spywaregorilla on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:05PM (#37691614)
Can you show evidence of him "blaming" Valve? I'm not aware of that. And it appears as though you are criticizing his character based on a behavior he didn't do.

Off the top of my head I can think of him saying the Valve Steamdeck is great: https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/141575567884990054...

And him saying that Valve not demanding crossplay is bad.

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by spywaregorilla on Thursday September 28, 2023 @01:11PM (#37692620)
I strongly agree with the merit of the first link's argument. Cross play is important.

The second one seems reasonable, factually accurate, and not a big deal.

I dislike the third argument regarding crypto because I think crypto is trash, but I do think Steam's (and many others) 30% cut of transactions is predatory vs. Epic's 12%. I also think it is predatory to require that games use the Steam Wallet for in app purchases meaning that steam gets a cut.

None of these are blaming Valve for being successful.

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by bpiche on Thursday September 28, 2023 @01:18PM (#37692711)
Tim's saying that Valve not supporting cross play is 'classic lock-in'

That's absolutely blame to me, but you're entitled to your own interpretation

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by Rapzid on Thursday September 28, 2023 @01:40PM (#37692989)
> They have a classic lock-in strategy where they build these services that only work with their store, and they use the fact that they have the majority market share in order to encourage everybody to ship games that have a broken experience in other stores... And we were bitten by this early on with a number of multiplayer games coming to the Epic Games Store. Steamworks didn't work on our store, so they had either a reduced set of multiplayer features or none...

What's controversial about that? What's he blaming them for?

Competition is good for consumers. If Steams leadership position is making it harder to have quality, viable alternative game stores that's bad for dev's and consumers long term.

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by spywaregorilla on Thursday September 28, 2023 @01:34PM (#37692912)
I strongly agree that it is anti-competitive and anti-consumer to not allow crossplay.

That's not blaming Valve for being successful. That's calling them out for anti-consume practices.

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by bpiche on Thursday September 28, 2023 @01:38PM (#37692962)
That's a fine opinion to have. Carry on.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by spywaregorilla on Thursday September 28, 2023 @03:47PM (#37694802)
"Carry on" implies superiority on your end and is a dickish thing to say.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by klik99 on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:22PM (#37691854)
Yes, this. I was going to reply with the same thing but thought it wasn't worth. There is a lot of hate towards Epic due to EGS, which I get - but Tim has never said anything about losing income due to other stores existing. Sure he's said a lot of bad things about Apple, but never about Valve. He's actually a really good guy, all the hate towards him really irks me - fine, hate the epic game store, I don't personally but I get it, all this world building where he becomes this stupid generic money grubbing CEO is just wrong. It's just reddit echo chamber stuff.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by MikusR on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:41PM (#37692158)
When Microsoft announced Windows Store he was one of the biggest fud spreaders about it. And everyone was praising him about it.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by klik99 on Thursday September 28, 2023 @04:59PM (#37695760)
your use of fud indicates that you are old enough to remember 90s microsoft so I'm surprised that you don't feel a huge dollop of skepticism was warranted for the windows store. If you weren't active in the 90s, then I can understand not getting just how anti-competitive MS had a strong history of being - now that we truly have a "new microsoft" these days.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by spywaregorilla on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:30PM (#37692005)
Same. Bugs me a lot. I dislike the EGS. I dislike Fortnite.

But Epic is one of the most dev-friendly companies in the world. And in my opinion they're constantly pushing in the right direction on things. Maybe not without prompting. But still.

* Online multiplayer must have crossplay

* Anti platform monopolists lawsuits

* Source available engine

* No lootboxes

* Over a hundred million dollars to Ukraine

* $250k to Godot for open source graphics

It's one of the few companies I'm actually rooting for.

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by tru1ock on Thursday September 28, 2023 @04:16PM (#37695216)
I used to play Rocket League on linux through steam. Epic killed that. They are very bad for linux gaming and I avoid anything Epic like the plague.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by HDThoreaun on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:18PM (#37691801)
Epic games store has been pretty good for me
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by madeofpalk on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:01PM (#37691543)
How much revenue do we believe Epic Games lost due to them not being on iOS or Android anymore?
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by rstat1 on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:08PM (#37691652)
They're still on Android because of side-loading, so probably not as much as they'd want you to believe.
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by enbugger on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:36AM (#37691153)
Expect to be charged for their full price retroactively :)
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by homarp on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:48AM (#37691329)
especially if they were made with Unity
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by spywaregorilla on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:06PM (#37691632)
Why would you say this?
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by iwonthecase on Thursday September 28, 2023 @12:14PM (#37691745)
You joke, but I could see Epic one day being like "if your EGS account only has free purchases and you've never actually paid for anything, your account/games will be removed in 30 days."
Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by ProllyInfamous on Thursday September 28, 2023 @01:03PM (#37692507)
Dude my GTAV (for FREE) is gun'be'lit.

No ragrats!

Re:Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff by jzl on Saturday September 30, 2023 @06:19PM (#37720468)
They pay a flat fee per free game, or at least did:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/4/22418782/epic-games-store-...