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Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by imbusy111 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @02:37PM (#37485599)
Pointing out the obvious, but the iPhone only has the touch input, and no physical controls, so it's not going to work as a serious gaming device.
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by basisword on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @02:41PM (#37485700)
This applies to the Switch too. It’s touch screen but has external controls (they detach and you can use the kickstand). iOS supports gaming controllers so you could use it in the same way as the Switch (albeit it doesn’t have a built in kickstand).
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by SketchySeaBeast on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:00PM (#37486106)
But if you're bringing your switch you're not just bringing the screen. If you are bringing your phone somewhere you are bringing just the phone. It's harder to sell and justify.
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by mcphage on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:01PM (#37486122)
> It’s touch screen but has external controls

The touch screen is one of the least-used parts of the Switch. Which is a little disappointing, since it was so heavily and well used on the DS/3DS lines. But so many of the ways Nintendo intends you to use the system, the touchscreen isn't accessible. So games aren't built around it in the same way that it was for their previous handhelds.

Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by cloin on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @02:39PM (#37485648)
It does however pair very nicely with popular console controllers
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by jonahhorowitz on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @02:39PM (#37485650)
It works really well with a PS5 controller, and they make controllers that snap on the sides too.
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by KoftaBob on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @02:40PM (#37485675)
Well yeah but that's a trivial problem to solve by just getting a case/attachment with gaming controls on it, like the Razer Kishi.
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by lp0_on_fire on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @02:50PM (#37485905)
With this announcement it wouldn't surprise me if Apple is already working on a first-party case/attachment specifically for gaming.

And it wouldn't be their first attempt at such hardware:

https://lowendmac.com/2006/apples-pippin-and-bandais-world-m...

Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by sbuk on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @02:44PM (#37485758)
Didn't an infamous CEO say similar about the 'missing' physical keyboard and not being a good business device?
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by cmelbye on Thursday September 14, 2023 @02:16AM (#37505564)
iPhone's keyboard is a joy to use. Virtual joysticks and gyro controls are frustrating and painful.
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by ErneX on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @02:49PM (#37485867)
You can use modern gamepads with it, like the PS5 DualSense.
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by dbbk on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:24PM (#37486534)
Then you've gotta figure out how to prop your phone up...
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by DRW_ on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:46PM (#37486965)
There are also plenty of clips for Xbox or PlayStation controllers that whilst being a little top heavy, are quite comfortable and work well.
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by jwells89 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:00PM (#37486104)
Yeah, bluetooth controller of choice and a kickstand case on the biggest iPhone gets you very close to a Switch or Deck conceptually.

Once the A17 makes its way to the iPad mini, that'll be even closer.

Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by falcolas on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:12PM (#37486314)
If, and only if the developers include controller support. Which they largely don't, even when controllers are supported on every other platform.

Two egregious examples: The Final Fantasy Pixel Remastered series, and Monster Hunter Stories. The first has controller support on both the PC and consoles, but not on phones (which came out first). The second launched on a console (the 3DS), and has no controller support on the phone.

That caveat alone makes it so frustrating to play games on the phone IME.

Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by jwells89 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:24PM (#37486545)
It’s a shame because the UX of controller configuration on iOS/macOS/tvOS is the best I’ve seen outside of consoles. Even Windows, the king of gaming, doesn’t do as well with configuration of Microsoft’s own Xbox controllers (let alone those of competing companies). Instead on Windows Steam is required for any level of sanity with controllers.
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by 0x457 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @05:55PM (#37489076)
Even if they do include, it's often weird. I wanted to try play genshin with controller - you have to complete certain parts of the game to unlock settings button. Why?
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by rconti on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @01:24AM (#37492530)
It seems like it would be trivial to build a "controller case" that goes around the phone. It could plug into the USB-C port, of course, and have joysticks on both sides, or whatever was required.
Re:Apple iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max by theshrike79 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @06:02PM (#37489171)
Serious or not, but for example Diablo Immortal is mobile only and it reportedly brings in $1M _daily_.

So some people are seriously playing it with no physical controls. =)

For "serious" mobile gamers there are devices like the Razer Kishi: https://www.razer.com/mobile-controllers/razer-kishi-v2

On this site people tend to forget that there actually are people under 30 whose only computing device is a phone. They use it for everything.