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Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by hot_gril on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @06:59PM (#37398981)
I'm wondering why you'd have a smart oven in the first place. Seems like all risk and no reward.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by MrDrMcCoy on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:02PM (#37399561)
Probably for some feature or astetic that's unrelated to the smart features, but is only available on the smart oven.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by galangalalgol on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:16PM (#37399661)
This os definitely most of it. Also, someone figured out they could do something with the parameters of the convection oven and get close to an air frier. Got the mode a year later. Lastly, when the meat thermometer hits temp, I get a notification. That is actually useful.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by stevehawk on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:26PM (#37399756)
The ability to pre-heat my oven without standing in front of it. That's really the big win. But also to be able to tell if spouse or children left it on.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by hot_gril on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:41PM (#37399880)
But I can just walk to my oven and turn it on, which wasn't a real problem even when I lived in a huge house. What am I missing?
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by spiderice on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:49PM (#37399939)
We really can’t force you to see the obvious if you’re set on not understanding something.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by hot_gril on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @09:05PM (#37400082)
That's alright, I'm good. Smart ovens are pretty rare, so it seems like a lot of people don't get this.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by naasking on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @09:08AM (#37404565)
> But I can walk to my oven and turn it on, which wasn't a real problem even when I lived in a huge house.

Rushing to get out the door, "Honey, did we turn off the stove?" Presumably you can then check with your phone.

Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by MobiusHorizons on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @10:05AM (#37405348)
People with internet controlled ovens turn them on before arriving home to shorten the time it takes to get dinner on the table.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by AndrewDucker on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:13AM (#37406337)
In my case, being able to start it heating when I'm ten minutes away from home, so that I can get the kids fed ten minutes sooner.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by hot_gril on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:30AM (#37406596)
Ok, that makes sense.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:56AM (#37406976)
A timer to turn on an oven has been a thing for 25 years or more, probably there were clockwork ones before that. So it is down to very fine control on timing, or not turning the oven on, say, if you're in a traffic jam.

I'd expect the network connection to go down and the oven not to turn on at least as often as 10 minute makes an operable difference.

Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by hot_gril on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @12:29PM (#37407442)
Maybe you don't decide at the start of your day, rather it comes up later that the kids want something baked for dinner that is already prepared and just needs to go into the oven, and you also get home from work at like 7pm. Idk how niche that is, but if that's someone's situation, the remote control makes sense.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by AndrewDucker on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @12:40PM (#37407586)
Yup. Or the buses and the queues at childcare pickup and the speed of walking home with a 3 and 5 year old means that arrival times at home vary dramatically.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by fragmede on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:40PM (#37399876)
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Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by hot_gril on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:57PM (#37400009)
That'd be a legit feature, but far less involved than a full-on smart oven. At most, it'd have a way to turn off the oven remotely (but not turn it on).

Anyway, last time I had this anxiety, I checked my Ring camera in the kitchen that's posted there for reasons like this. Works for the stove and faucet too.

Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by FetusP on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @12:56AM (#37401471)
While I have neither, I'd much rather use a smart oven to see its status than have a constant camera feed of my kitchen.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by hot_gril on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @01:25AM (#37401597)
It's not constant, it only starts recording when I ask it to. Mainly cause it's on battery. Also, it's just an observer, not controlling anything in the house.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by dandy23 on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @03:24AM (#37402218)
A simple timer that switches off after a couple of hours would do. The timer could reset every time the oven door is opened. This should solve most issues. Long cooking could have a bypass button or somethong (if the door open reset is not enough).
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by zidad on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @04:23AM (#37402578)
I just remembered many old analog electrical ovens had this already , the only way to turn on the oven is by setting a timer (and when you needed it on for many hours you had to set another timer for yourself to remember to extend the oven timer ).
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by Const-me on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @04:09AM (#37402488)
Even if you left the oven on, I believe it’s very unlikely to burn down the house.

These devices are designed to work for hours with minimal supervision. Given the size of the user base, IMO ovens are extremely reliable. And electricity prices are too low to be anxious about the costs.

Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by mnw21cam on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @07:15AM (#37403550)
> These devices are designed to work for hours with minimal supervision.

I wish. A while back, I put some (food) stuff to dry in the oven on a very low heat, knowing it would take all night to dry fully. After six hours, the oven decided that I must have accidentally left it on by mistake, and switched off automatically, and that stuff was wrecked when I got up in the morning and checked on it.

Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by vjk800 on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @09:26AM (#37404800)
Indeed. I don't think I've ever heard of an oven burning down a house. And given how pretty much everyone has one, there must be many ovens left on alone in the house at every given moment.
Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @12:00PM (#37407028)
If you think the oven can burn the house down, how about the anxiety of trusting some companies IoT oven not to be exploited by script kiddies to burn your house down?