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Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by egypturnash on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:10PM (#37266442)
My first question, as an artist who's been using a Mac for 23 years, is: why? Why would I want to switch to this? Why would I want to hassle with buying a random PC and installing this on when I can just keep using a Mac? I expect the same level of bullshit out of that experience as, say, the way my Windows-using husband has been trained to never put his machine to sleep by decades of unreliable sleep behavior.

There is a link in the front page text to a much uglier, unprofessional-looking page on Github that has a lengthy answer to that which seems to boil down to "Privacy", if you actually want to try and pitch this to non-programmes then summarize that shit down to a couple of sentences and have a link to a page that goes into more detail that actually has some CSS on it.

My second question is: how well does the Adobe suite run on it? I've been using Illustrator as my main medium for as long as I've been using a Mac, I have zero desire to start fresh in terms of customizing, scripting, and configuring Inkscape.

Typing "adobe" into the search bar of the site returns no results so given the "why you should use this" page I'm gonna assume the answer is "[a twenty minute rant on why you should be using Free Software instead, with a lengthy sidebar on the differences between free, Free, and 'free']". Or maybe if you're lucky "well WINE mostly works if you fiddle with it enough".

My third question is: why are the menu names in the front page screenshot in German, with a menu in English?

I'll stick to Apple's fork of FreeBSD, thanks.

Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by nawfalak on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:38PM (#37266733)
I feel like you're looking a bit too much into it and that this rant is a bit unnecessary. You write as though you're being attacked by the creators or something. It's not going to "replace your MacOS" or anything, but rather is a showcase of clean UI and UX. Looking through the "What" and "Why" sections on their Github says how it follows certain UI and UX guidelines; many of which Apple has adopted. I don't think you're the target audience either. If you're interested in FreeBSD and like MacOS, you'd probably love this.
Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by egypturnash on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:55PM (#37266919)
I'm critiquing the presentation.

"helloSystem is a desktop system for creators with a focus on simplicity, elegance, and usability. Its design follows the “Less, but better” philosophy. It is intended as a system for “mere mortals”, welcoming to switchers from the Mac."

Sounds like I'm somewhere near the target audience if you ask me.

Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by Melatonic on Friday August 25, 2023 @06:42PM (#37267937)
Well for one you do not need to buy expensive Mac hardware......that seems like a pretty damn big selling point.
Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by nawfalak on Friday August 25, 2023 @07:02PM (#37268101)
I don't think so. You were critiquing the text about free software and privacy that they had in their Github which are valid reasons to use this if you subscribe to those philosophies. While I don't know how you feel about how MacOSs' UI looks at the moment, they had complaints with how modern MacOS looks a lot like iOS. If you wanted a similar experience to early OSX or OS9 and before and weren't too tech savvy, you'd probably enjoy this too.
Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by trimethylpurine on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:29PM (#37266631)
Mac OS currently has no enterprise usable file sharing, for starters. The Samba driver is garbage and AFP is maintained by third parties. Etc. The Mac OS has uses, but they are VASTLY fewer in number than Linux or Windows. Why does anyone make new stuff? To solve problems, or serve needs and desires.
Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by jjrh on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:28PM (#37266623)
A lot of people care about software freedom? To the point where they will use a (currently) worse tool.
Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by ketralnis on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:30PM (#37266647)
Alright. Sounds like it's not for you then. That's okay.
Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by sleiben on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:48PM (#37266837)
You‘re probably not the target group. It’s an open source project (in comparison to the MacOS walled garden) and I think that especially your 3rd question is disrespectful. In general your comment reads like a rant against the open source philosophy to me and is attacking/demotivating people who spend their spare time to create free software. Instead of attacking OSS creators one should give kudos and encourage them to go on. … just my 5 cents.
Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by egypturnash on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:52PM (#37266885)
"helloSystem is a desktop system for creators with a focus on simplicity, elegance, and usability. Its design follows the “Less, but better” philosophy. It is intended as a system for “mere mortals”, welcoming to switchers from the Mac."

I think I am kind of exactly the target group.

Why is "why is half of the screenshot used as my first encounter with this system in a different language from the rest" a disrespectful question?

Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by skyyler on Friday August 25, 2023 @05:38PM (#37267347)
>Why would I want to switch to this?

Because you value free software. That's the only reason.

It's a very compelling reason for many people. If it's not compelling for you, that's ok.

Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by stonogo on Friday August 25, 2023 @05:27PM (#37267253)
Typing "adobe" into the search bar of apple.com returns a bunch of external hard drives. I think your analysis is off.

Seems to me you're an Adobe user more than a Mac user, and there's nothing wrong with that. Not every project needs to target you.

Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by PrimeMcFly on Friday August 25, 2023 @10:10PM (#37269304)
I really don't get why it's mostly artists who always buy Apple's marketing hook line and sinker.
Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by paulryanrogers on Friday August 25, 2023 @10:20PM (#37269353)
IDK about artists (always did my art on DOS and Windows) yet Mac is slowly conquering business with consistency and fewer ads. Windows used to be the business OS, it was customizable, corp controlled where need be, and backward compatible. It was one platform to dev for and manage to reach a huge audience.

Now Windows reputation has suffered mightily with bundled ads, version churn (also impacts Mac yet with limited hardware the impact is lessened), and major swings in UI changes (often regressing).

It almost feels like Apple and Microsoft are slowly trading positions, whilst Mac retains a limited hardware set; making things easier for them. Interesting to see how Apple's shift to services ends up, will they become as obnoxious as Microsoft?

Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by PrimeMcFly on Friday August 25, 2023 @10:26PM (#37269386)
Surely the professional versions of Windows don't have ads though - that's just the consumer/at home versions?

I would think the bigger concern is all the telemetry.

Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by hedora on Friday August 25, 2023 @11:06PM (#37269602)
LinkedIn, GitHub and Office are some of Microsoft’s biggest telemetry streams. I imagine they are or will be providing more user info than Windows.
Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by pjerem on Saturday August 26, 2023 @02:18AM (#37270323)
Yeah my company is currently switching to macOS.

We write software in C#, most employees still use VisualStudio, we still have some legacy code in .NET Framework (everything else is netcore). It’s a 20 years old company.

So that’s the typical windows shop but still we are migrating to macOS. That’s how much Windows have become a shit show.

Re:HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD by egypturnash on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @03:56PM (#37396939)
Back in the nineties a lot of the best creative tools were Mac-only. People who grew up with that and are now running studios/shops/etc are used to doing things the Mac way, and are only going to bother changing if they have a compelling reason.