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Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by kylec on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @10:16PM (#37231117)
Surprising, considering mounting your iPhone to a motorcycle was central to the main ad for the iPhone 13:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn50z2PEDEA

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by semiquaver on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @11:16PM (#37231457)
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212803

> high-power motorcycle engines

Neither “high-power” nor “motorcycle” are words I would use to characterize the vehicle in that advertisement.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by Melting_Harps on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @02:32AM (#37232490)
> Neither “high-power” nor “motorcycle” are words I would use to characterize the vehicle in that advertisement.

Words I would use are 'manipulating gig workers nto thinking they can/should/must own a phone that far exceeds the value of their scooter.'

I have a Mac (computer) that I used for work stuff but I will never get the cult-like fantacism that drives the mobile phone sales side, even this ad screams of RATM No Shelter:

The poor adore keep fiendin' for more

The thin line between entertainment and war

Fix the need, develop the taste

Buy their products or get laid to waste

I had an older iiphone (sub 9) and the reason I got it was because the app I used it for pretty much abandoned Android support entirely, nothing on the Android version worked and was not being updated despite a significant outcry for support. It then died when I took it to EU (where they have almost no penetration) and used a phone charger and lost like $60 worth of Bitcoin on that phone.

I'm glad I'm a millennial that never got sucked into these stupid things, unlike most of my generation: I almost always have a laptop on me that can do everything a mobile phone can do with a much better UX and security/privacy,

With that said, I drove with my older S. Korean made LG Android on my motorcycles all the time and never had an issue, so... blame Foxconn made QA?

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by vladvasiliu on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @04:15AM (#37233185)
Did that phone have OIS? That's what seems to break with the iphones. Anecdotally, my iphone 7 has ridden countless miles on motorbike handlebars with no issue.

Motorbike GPS, and more broadly mapping, is one of the main uses I get from my phone that my laptop can't provide. Also music, when out and about. Other than that, my phone sees little to no action. During COVID lockdowns, it would gather visible dust from lack of use. That's why I like looking out for deals on refurbished iphones, so I can keep them for a long time, while also getting updates.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by Ensorceled on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @05:59AM (#37233779)
Poor people, like gig economy workers, buy smart phones because it IS their computer. The reason you see people in low paying jobs with big expensive smart phones: it’s their computer, game console, tv, radio, camera, photo album, etc. etc.

That was one of the surprising marketing lessons for the early iPhones and is a well known social phenomenon.

I love when people who don’t know any poor people go on these rants.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by Melting_Harps on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:39AM (#37236724)
> That was one of the surprising marketing lessons for the early iPhones and is a well known social phenomenon.

I don't think that invalidates my position, or argument: hence why I said that laptops provide a better UX, if I had been introduced to the bloated, spyware ridden version of the Internet provided by mobile as my first experience online, I'm pretty sure I would have never bothered. It is such an inferior version of the internet demanding more and more of the person's privacy in order to just to use as the Surveillance capitalism relies on it's users data to be the product.

> I love when people who don’t know any poor people go on these rants.

And I love it when people's biases make them so blind they can rationalize the perverse system, that they likely benefit from one form or another, that underpins it and try to sound righteous (we help the poor) in the process. This is exactly what fueled the cult of effective altruism and why it was as effective as it was, as it gave grifters a way to rationalize their cons.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by Ensorceled on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @12:30PM (#37238519)
> And I love it when people's biases make them so blind they can rationalize the perverse system, that they likely benefit from one form or another, that underpins it and try to sound righteous (we help the poor) in the process. This is exactly what fueled the cult of effective altruism and why it was as effective as it was as it gave grifters a way to rationalize their cons.

Nah, I'm not blind the the perverse incentives but ...

> I'm glad I'm a millennial that never got sucked into these stupid things,

I'm not blaming the poor people for their problems.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by mrguyorama on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @02:04PM (#37239855)
This is exclusively American "poor" people. Everyone I've known who struggles to pay bills could NEVER afford an iPhone, and wouldn't be able to get it on a payment plan either, because verizon stopped offering them contracts a decade ago, or they are stuck buying a $100 "smart talk" smartphone that is a stupidly old and underpowered machine that they then suffer through until it inevitably falls apart under normal use and they tape it back together so they don't have to buy another one for a little longer.

"Poor" people don't ever have the $800 needed to buy an iPhone at one time, like ever.

This makes a lot more sense when you look at less rich countries and see how much less popular iPhones are. It's only in America where people who aren't in poverty but rather deep into the lower class that will make sacrifices so they can buy an iPhone, or worse, pay $1600 over a two year payment plan and then UPGRADE after the plan is through. Americans are so terrified of being SEEN as poor, because they know how they vote for poor people to be treated.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by Ensorceled on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @03:45PM (#37241177)
I’m talking about Smartphones in general. The iPhone example was when we learned that there was a surprise uptake amongst lower income demographics because of the computer or phone affordability dilemma. This hold true for lower cost smartphones, even more so now.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by Melting_Harps on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @03:13PM (#37240820)
> This makes a lot more sense when you look at less rich countries and see how much less popular iPhones are. It's only in America where people who aren't in poverty but rather deep into the lower class that will make sacrifices so they can buy an iPhone, or worse, pay $1600 over a two year payment plan and then UPGRADE after the plan is through. Americans are so terrified of being SEEN as poor, because they know how they vote for poor people to be treated.

Well said, and hence why I quoted Rage Against the Machine who later go on to say on a track for Sony's Godzilla movie no less:

Godzilla pure motherfucking filla'

Get your eyes on the real killa'

Despite being from the US, I will never understand this 'culture' and it seems so vapid and fake until you realize that is exactly what most people want out of their relationships as a whole: something so trite and cliche that fits in within the confines of a narrow attention span and is equally digestble on social media that signals to other like minded people in kind. The people who I see using phones as a status symbol are often the least economically stable I know: think children/teenagers or those older who simply have no other assets or investments to speak of.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by somerandomqaguy on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @02:58AM (#37232687)
Eh, it qualifies as a motorcycle IMO. Whether the engine's vibrations transit enough through the frame to damage the camera though is a matter of some debate. It's not just power; how well the engine's tuned, if it's been damaged, etc can affect that pretty drastically.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by 4gotunameagain on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @03:59AM (#37233067)
A big factor is the number of cylinders and their arrangement, which affect the so called primary and secondary engine balance. A smaller single cylinder produces much more vibration than a way larger inline four with a 1-3-4-2 firing order.

I would assume though that phone cameras are damaged by higher frequency vibrations, a big component of which is speed and type of tyres/road condition

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by jpsouth on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:15AM (#37235375)
This is a big factor. My Husqvarna Vitpilen 401 is a single cylinder 373cc engine and boy does it vibrate. My Kawasaki Versys 650 is a two cylinder and the vibrations are barely noticeable even at red line or high speeds.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by porkbeer on Friday August 25, 2023 @01:18PM (#37264382)
I have a single cyl bike that goes over 160mph and tries to wheelie out of your control at every chance. The vibration is way worse than a similar 4cyl. The more pistons, the less vibration. That is why luxury cars have been the homes of v12s and the like. Harmonics are more impactful inside the engine. Uneven firing of the cylinder is actually a feature to maintain traction in sport bikes, look up 'big bang firing order' for an interesting rabbit hole.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by vladvasiliu on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @03:58AM (#37233063)
Indeed. But, anecdotally, the absolute worst ride quality I've had on a powered two-wheeler was with that kind of scooter. All the legitimately "high-powered motorcycles" (>1000 CC and > 100 HP) I've ridden have been very smooth. Not Citroën Hydractive smooth, but still, night and day compared to the vibrating mess of small city scooters.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by solatic on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @05:51AM (#37233735)
If it has two wheels ("bicycle") and a motor ("motorized bicycle") then it is a "motorcycle".

Declining to call it a motorcycle because the motor is small relative to other motorcycles is little more than snobbery, and it's a snobbery that discourages people from buying a (larger) motorcycle that fits their needs, because of a historic arbitrary distinction between small and large motorcycles that require separate licensing for large motorcycles; a distinction that should be eliminated either by applying licensing requirements uniformly to all motorcycles or uniformly eliminating the licensing requirements from all motorcycles.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by michaelt on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:29AM (#37233926)
> Declining to call it a motorcycle because the motor is small relative to other motorcycles is little more than snobbery,

At least in my country, it's not a question of engine size but of having a step-through frame. A Vespa with a 300cc engine would usually be called a motor scooter, a CB125R with a 125cc engine is a motorbike.

Of course, my country's parlance is wildly inconsistent. Some motor scooters are also known as 'mopeds' despite not having pedals. E-bikes have motors and pedals, and yet aren't called mopeds or motorbikes. The tax authority considers motor scooters to be motorbikes. Certain motorbike tax bands call the vehicle a 'bicycle'. E-scooters are scooters with motors, yet aren't called motor scooters. 'Bikers' refers to motorcyclists, and 'cyclists' to bicycle riders. And so on.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by veave on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:02AM (#37233795)
It's not snobbery, a cheap scooter like the one in that ad makes it much harder to kill yourself than a real motorcycle, which is why there is a different licence required.

Here, a scooter like that you can't even drive in a highway - restricting its use to a city makes it much safer.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by jpc0 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:26AM (#37233905)
I would love to see accident statistics that supports that claim.

Last time I looked at it small bikes, generally used by delivery drivers to be fair, vastly overshadowed any other motorcycle accidents.

On the same note death rates per vehicle on the road was lower for motorcycles than all other vehicle classes and a large portion of those deaths were passengers on a motorcycle and not the driver.

This was all from the mid 2010s though. The statistics showed more to me that wearing correct protection equipment significantly reduced your chance of dieing, the displacement of the engine or even the type of motorcycle had some impact but definitely wasn't a major factor.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by gog on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:40AM (#37236753)
Are you sure that the statistics you looked into take into account number of vehicle on the road and miles/minutes traveled for each category?

Smaller bikes/scooters (you can drive them with a car license in my country if they are under 50cc) have a max top speed of 50km/h (31mph).

On the other hand, one of the most popular motorcycles (Yamaha MT-07) does 0-100km/h (0-60 mph) in under 4 seconds and can reach speeds of over 130 miles per hour. There is a lot that can go wrong if you are not careful. Also, it is almost twice as heavy.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by solatic on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:27AM (#37233906)
That perspective, that scooters are somehow safer, isn't borne out in the data. In city after city we see mounting injuries and deaths, as usage and popularity increase. Consider https://news.sky.com/story/e-scooter-deaths-triple-this-year... and https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-scooter-crazed-tel-aviv-70-... (light Googling).

If one wishes to take the perspective that licensure helps prevent injuries and death, then apply the licensure requirements to these lighter vehicles too. If one prefers the perspective that all such transport is inherently risky, and thus prioritize personal responsibility and assumption of risk, then let's get rid of the licensure requirements, which will surely help get more people out of their 4-wheelers, with knock-on improvements for the environment, traffic congestion, and parking. My problem is with the arbitrary distinction in the middle.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by veave on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:41AM (#37233998)
In the context that we are discussing, those aren't scooters. This is a scooter: https://motosnuevas.formulamoto.es/galeria/4671/Vespa_Primav...
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by okokwhatever on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:46AM (#37234025)
Simply brilliant. Thanks God real riders still exist.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by devnullbrain on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:51AM (#37234049)
The UK DVLA must be snobs too, I can ride the moped in the video with my car licence but not a motorbike. And a high-powered one - which you declined to mention - is another licence again.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by coldtea on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:55AM (#37234071)
>because of a historic arbitrary distinction between small and large motorcycles that require separate licensing for large motorcycles

I don't think it's in any way arbitrary. There are speed, engine, and other differences, affecting skill levels required and potential lethality...

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by solatic on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:21AM (#37236400)
> skill levels required and potential lethality

Why does that matter to the government? It requires skill to use a knife, and if it's mishandled it can cause severe bodily harm; should we require people to get a license to use a knife in their own kitchen? If it's because of the potential lethality to others, then surely we ought to require licensing for all motorbikes (including small motorbikes); what if a toddler wanders into the bike lane where these small-engine motorbikes are permitted?

> speed

Non-motorized cyclists can hit speeds of over 120 km/h (admittedly an extreme case, but still): https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/122... . Should we require licensing for non-motorized bicycles simply because the vehicle has the potential to hit a certain speed? Wouldn't it then make more sense to require licensure for anyone who travels faster than a certain speed, and for any two-wheeled vehicle to be registered and plated?

Again I concede that there are naturally differences between large- and small-engine motorcycles. My point is that regardless of which rubric you choose, whether it's safety, skill, whatever, the decision that a mechanical engine requires licensure but an electric one does not, or 125cc motorcycles require licensure but "electric bicycles" do not, wherever that line is drawn is there for historical reasons only, not because of the safety or skill rubric, and therefore is arbitrary, therefore is unjust, therefore should be reformed to be more consistent than just whatever we have today due to historical accident.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by coldtea on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:29AM (#37236535)
>Why does that matter to the government?

It doesn't. It matters to the law, which is a different thing from the government.

And it matters because it matters to society whether someone with insufficient training and testing rides a huge motorcycle, or a truck, or whatever. Especially something like a sports motorcycle which needs more skill than an average car, and is much easier to slip (as accidents stats tell).

>Non-motorized cyclists can hit speeds of over 120 km/h

Rarely and in extreme conditions. Big motorcycles can do it trivially.

The world cycle record is 130 km/h, under very special circumstances and for just 200m or so. The highest end of the speed pros usually achieve is (according to wiki) around 70 km/h, quite less than 120 km/h. Not to mention a motorcycle (especially the kind more heavily regulated) has much more weight than a bike, and thus much more momentum even for the same speed.

>It requires skill to use a knife, and if it's mishandled it can cause severe bodily harm; should we require people to get a license to use a knife in their own kitchen?

I'm pretty sure people are allowed to ride any size of motorcycle in their own kitches or their backyard even. It's when they ride them on the road, and this can kill others, that it gets to be a concern for the law.

The same holds for knives btw. Carrying a knife in the streets in many jurisdictions is considered an offense, similar to carrying a gun. It sure is in mine.

And in general, for all over the US I read "(...) there are often limits on knives or bladed weapons that may be carried. Most states regulate an individual’s ability to carry a knife based on the following characteristics of the knife itself: The type of knife, including the purpose in which it is typically used for; (...) The length of the blade.".

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by solatic on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:30PM (#37244680)
> and this can kill others, that it gets to be a concern for the law.

As this is the crux of your argument, please provide data showing how large motorcycles are so much more lethal for pedestrians compared to cars. Because all the statistics I'm familiar with (and I do take issue with them) show risk for the riders themselves, not for others.

I don't deny that, of course, if you hit a pedestrian in a 500cc motorcycle going 50 km/h then the pedestrian will certainly suffer major injuries if not death. The difference is that the rider will as well, unlike a 4-wheeler that wraps its driver in a roll cage, seat belt, and airbags. This mutually-assured destruction, I argue, causes motorcycle riders to generally be safer on the roads vis-a-vis pedestrians, and that this should hold true regardless of licensure.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by dmonitor on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:29AM (#37236540)
it has two wheels

it has a motor

behold: a motorcycle https://productnotes.com/uploads/default/optimized/2X/5/5313...

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by ashbee on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:11PM (#37242523)
That thing clearly has _three_ wheels, making it a motor trike.

This is a motorcycle: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpoydU...

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by solatic on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:20PM (#37244628)
I'll admit, I laughed :D
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by ce4 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:55AM (#37234521)
That makes no sense, yup. Well, maybe Scooters, yes - they usually have their engine mounted in the swingarm instead of the central frame, which reduces vibrations at the handlebar. As for power, that doesnt correlate, eg. I have a 20yrs old KTM single without a dampening balance shaft. It only has 48PS but boy, does it vibrate. 45min ride = tingling feet and hands. So, number of cylinders, crankshaft configuration and number of balance shafts make the difference.

Also: Vibration spectrum and power distribution probably also make a Zuge difference (for the iphone's lens/autofocus mechanism)

Electric motorcycles are also really smooth.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by zikduruqe on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:06AM (#37233822)
Apple also advertises their watches as water resistant and shows ads with people swimming. But as soon as you get some water ingress, you are SOL since it is not guaranteed.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by predmijat on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:22AM (#37233888)
And one of my favorite commercials ruins everything with small print at the end "liquid damage not covered by warranty". This shouldn't be legal :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYCnHebwTCM

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by stephen_g on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:29AM (#37233924)
Since the Series 2 they have a water-resistance rating of 50 metres under ISO standard 22810:2010. So despite how it affects the warranty it is definitely designed to withstand swimming.

And it does work, I would have over 150 recorded swimming workouts (45 minutes to an hour each) on my Apple Watch SE.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by delfinom on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:03AM (#37234113)
The problem is, the design is tested to the ISO immersion standard, but the product is not.

What do I mean? In hardware manufacturing lines, if you guarantee water immersion, you actually do that test as part of manufacturing, either using real water or something known as "dryleak" where you gauge air displacement in a fitted and known volume fixture.

Apple and most phone manufacturers aren't going bother with that test since it's extra labor and time, so they instead live with never warranting it.

It doesn't take much to have a water ingress issue. Even a tiny tiny defect in the adhesive gasket gluing the phone together can lead to ingress.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by N_A_T_E on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:20AM (#37235443)
Sure, but isn't that mostly a theoretical issue or only problematic if the device is used at the limit of it's specification? I haven't heard any stories of water damaged iPhones recently. I've had my iPhone XS and 12 underwater without any problems. My apple watch has been in the shower hundreds of times.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by o1y32 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:15AM (#37235380)
Unless this is written in the warranty, your experience is no more useful than an anecdote -- "design to" only goes as far as the watch is still working, otherwise it is $249 down the drain.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by Angostura on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:12AM (#37236211)
OK, lets get some data. How many Apple Watches are killed by water ingres?
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by zikduruqe on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:34AM (#37236626)
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by chrisdhal on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:17AM (#37236314)
Go to any watch forum and post something about wearing your watch that's rated for 100m to wash your hands and watch the flames come in.

They'll argue (maybe rightfully so) that a water resistance rating is not the same as the pressures of swimming. Just dunking something does not do anything such as swimming strokes that could force water into the watch. I find it a little absurd that people won't wash dishes with a 100m resistant watch, but then again, I'm not sporting a 5 figure watch either.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by max51 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:15AM (#37237358)
a 100m water column is around 150 psi. That number is 3 times the typical city tap water, it's a lot of pressure.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by l33t7332273 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:24AM (#37234247)
The Ultra is literally advertised as a dive watch, so I think your information might be a little bit out of date.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by zikduruqe on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:50AM (#37234454)
You think that. Get some water in your Ultra, Apple will tell you tough luck.

Many threads with complaints that people are using their Apple Watches as intended and as marketed, but once there is a bit of water ingress, Apple will not cover the damage (outside of normal warranty period).

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by ChrisRR on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @08:31AM (#37234850)
Even then they advertise it as water resistant up to 100m

*but we don't recommend you use it beyond 40m and may degrade over time.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by gruturo on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:21AM (#37235460)
> *but we don't recommend you use it beyond 40m and may degrade over time.

Worse than that. It was tested and as soon as you pass 40m, it gives a warning, stops displaying the depth and just tells you ASCEND. Once you are above 40m it functions again but the No Decompression Limit is no longer reliable, as it doesn't track the actual depth you were at, while >40m.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by ponyboy123 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @03:48PM (#37253705)
That’s entirely reasonable, 40 meters is the limit of recreational diving.

Anyone going deeper would be doing tech diving and would need to be using a proper dive computer.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by o1y32 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:12AM (#37235340)
Is there a different warranty for the Ultra that gives you money back if the watch is dead because of water damage? (As far as I know, no.) If not, what's the point of your comment?
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by l33t7332273 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:13AM (#37236235)
The point of my comment was to draw attention to the fact that it likely had better waterproofing than previous watches.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by eajakobsen on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:18AM (#37234204)
There is some fine print at the bottom of the screen in the shot where the phone is connected to the handlebars:

> Always use a dampener with your iPhone when riding as shown. Use only with low-powered bikes and avoid prolonged use.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by dizhn on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:54AM (#37234504)
That sounds like "it'll work in a pinch but don't actually do it".
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by arp242 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @08:52AM (#37235041)
That disclaimer is shown for exactly 1.5 seconds, or 38 frames, mostly as white text against a white background. Yes, I downloaded and checked as I'm that sad type of person :-) No one can notice the text is there and read it that fast, so for all practical purposes it might as well not be there.

It always disappoints me regulators just let this kind of faux-disclaimer slide. This is just lying with your fingers crossed behind your back.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by mrguyorama on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @01:52PM (#37239685)
American "false advertising" law is absolutely toothless.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by BizarroLand on Friday August 25, 2023 @12:35PM (#37263721)
The fact that drug makers can hawk pills on TV telling you how much you need glockinflexadusal or whatever schizophrenic word-salad name they've come up with for your sporadic knee twinge and show you how you can be young and beautiful and imminently desirable again

(sometimes people who take this pill start pooping and never stop pooping again for the rest of their lives which are thankfully rather short, and on a few occasions people have immediately burst into flames and started screaming in pain but their bodies refuse to die for some reason)

You should ask your doctor if girexamusib is right for you. *images of children wearing white clothing and running through wheat fields and blowing dandelion puff seeds into a beautiful sunset play while the tranquil music of heavens elevator plays softly in the background*

is incredibly terrible for all of the worst reasons.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by rainbowzootsuit on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:26AM (#37235522)
And the theme song/video is, paraphrased, "doing this all day." Nice touch.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by infecto on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:57AM (#37234535)
Even without a dampener I would be surprised if they bike would cause issues.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by raverbashing on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @08:31AM (#37234853)
I'm betting that iPhone cost more than that motorcycle

(though to be fair to the other commenters, the vibration there is probably greatly reduced due to the fact of being more a scooter than a motorbike - being kept loosely on a holder instead of clamped also helps)

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by themaninthedark on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @08:32AM (#37234857)
Given this is Apple, not surprising. "You're mounting it wrong"