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Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by stephen_g on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @06:29AM (#37233924)
Since the Series 2 they have a water-resistance rating of 50 metres under ISO standard 22810:2010. So despite how it affects the warranty it is definitely designed to withstand swimming.

And it does work, I would have over 150 recorded swimming workouts (45 minutes to an hour each) on my Apple Watch SE.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by delfinom on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @07:03AM (#37234113)
The problem is, the design is tested to the ISO immersion standard, but the product is not.

What do I mean? In hardware manufacturing lines, if you guarantee water immersion, you actually do that test as part of manufacturing, either using real water or something known as "dryleak" where you gauge air displacement in a fitted and known volume fixture.

Apple and most phone manufacturers aren't going bother with that test since it's extra labor and time, so they instead live with never warranting it.

It doesn't take much to have a water ingress issue. Even a tiny tiny defect in the adhesive gasket gluing the phone together can lead to ingress.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by N_A_T_E on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:20AM (#37235443)
Sure, but isn't that mostly a theoretical issue or only problematic if the device is used at the limit of it's specification? I haven't heard any stories of water damaged iPhones recently. I've had my iPhone XS and 12 underwater without any problems. My apple watch has been in the shower hundreds of times.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by o1y32 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:15AM (#37235380)
Unless this is written in the warranty, your experience is no more useful than an anecdote -- "design to" only goes as far as the watch is still working, otherwise it is $249 down the drain.
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by Angostura on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:12AM (#37236211)
OK, lets get some data. How many Apple Watches are killed by water ingres?
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by zikduruqe on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:34AM (#37236626)
Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by chrisdhal on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:17AM (#37236314)
Go to any watch forum and post something about wearing your watch that's rated for 100m to wash your hands and watch the flames come in.

They'll argue (maybe rightfully so) that a water resistance rating is not the same as the pressures of swimming. Just dunking something does not do anything such as swimming strokes that could force water into the watch. I find it a little absurd that people won't wash dishes with a 100m resistant watch, but then again, I'm not sporting a 5 figure watch either.

Re:Mounting your iPhone on your motorcycle can damage its ca... by max51 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:15AM (#37237358)
a 100m water column is around 150 psi. That number is 3 times the typical city tap water, it's a lot of pressure.