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Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by spiderfarmer on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:14PM (#36763432)
I usually just drink water. You should try it, it’s awesome.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by johntfella on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:24PM (#36763549)
On my property I have both a well and a spring so that's what I generally use. Recent outing in the city reminded me of the chlorine they use. It was kind of an amusing episode as drinking the water at the restaurant I had sworn maybe the glasses weren't fully rinsed so the waitress brought out another and made sure it was clean.. still tasted of chlorine. So I had her fill my canister up thinking it was just a detergent they were using.. still tasted of chlorine so I presumed it must be the water and remembered that indeed chlorine/chloramine is added to public supplies. I don't know if that will prove to be a problem in the future and most things that claim to be are a bit on the tin foil hat tent that said a recent study does seem to show minimal impact on gut biome (https://doi.org/10.1038/s41564-022-01101-3) .. whether there is a compounding effect down line who knows.. but could explain some of the issues that differentiate between farm communities and urban dwellings (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kidsallergies/amish-farm-...)
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by wkat4242 on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:34PM (#36765605)
Chlorine is annoying but so is legionnaire disease (which can deadly) or a gastrointestinal infection.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by johntfella on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:54PM (#36765834)
Most wells these days go with uv, not sure if that handles that. Personally I don't bother, but I also pull from creeks and rivers nearby for more tainted water with the intention of exposure. Been doing it for decades now. Wouldn't recommend it. That said, uv might be a plausible answer (I know a few public wells where you pay to fill up which is treated with uv and is all they use).
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by wkat4242 on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:03PM (#36765913)
UV works well but the problem is bacteria can build up in water lines. So you'd have to UV sterilize it at every tap point or at least every house. Chlorine is easier for this.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by johntfella on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:12PM (#36765989)
Makes sense, ie why there can be the centralize well water depots etc. I'm thankful that it's not something I have to rely on indeed.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by zdragnar on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:00PM (#36765879)
Most people on well water (are recommended to) test once a year for bacteria, and don't bother with UV filters unless they need to, in my experience.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by amluto on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:27PM (#36767052)
Monochloramine, on the other hand, is barely perceptible at a couple ppm.

(It also produces less in the way of disinfection byproducts, which is good if the water contains anything that might react nastily with chlorine. And it’s much more persistent, which is good or bad depending on your perspective. You need to take special measures to remove it if you want to water a fish and potentially if you want to brew beer. As far as I can tell, it has no meaningful effect on an established sourdough starter. I assume that the large population of microbes in established starter is able to neutralize the small amounts of chloramine in tap water.)

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by mixmastamyk on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:34PM (#36766202)
Chlorine will dissipate after a few hours. Put tap water in a pitcher and keep overnight in the fridge for a cold one later.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by euroderf on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @03:40AM (#36769111)
True AFAIK, but I would like to see some experimental results made accessible to laymen.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by mixmastamyk on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @09:12AM (#36771593)
Well, it is a gas at room temperature. Might be a good science project for a student to confirm what we think we know. The taste of chlorine does dissipate and that was good enough for me.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by decafninja on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:31PM (#36763643)
Plain water bores me. It just doesn’t satisfy cravings. I know it’s arguably the best beverage to consume, but I find it really hard to choose water over nearly any other kind of beverage.

I know I’m not alone.

Sparkling water has become my go-to. It does satisfy my cravings, and I’m sure it’s immeasurably better for health than my previous go-to Diet Coke.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by FredPret on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:57PM (#36763972)
Try drinking a large amount of water, like a gallon, every day for a week. I did this and my palate changed completely.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by dctoedt on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:48PM (#36765769)
> I did this and my palate changed completely.

Mind if I ask: How so?

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by mixedCase on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:18PM (#36766054)
It's just what the human palate does. It adapts to circumstance. Skip sugar and sweet stuff for a few months and when you try it again everything tastes much sweeter than before. Same with salt. Same with acidity. And surely other things I haven't tried and corroborated with peers.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by randallsquared on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:09PM (#36765968)
I dunno about a week, but it only took me about three weeks to switch from regular soda to diet soda, back in the mid-nineties, and I really didn't like the taste of diet soda when I started. After 2-3L a day of diet for several weeks regular Mountain Dew tasted sickeningly sweet and I no longer wanted it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by themitigating on Monday July 17, 2023 @11:35PM (#36767511)
Similar experience here. The sweetness of regular coke bothers me. Diet coke is more tart and sweet.

I also love Diet Redbull for the taste however it still has a small number of calories and carbs so they make Redbull Zero which I can't stand

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by FredPret on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:02PM (#36766851)
Water went from boring as dirt to kind of tasty.

Anything carbonated still tastes good but there's a hard limit of one per day.

I still like the usual foods. I also lost 20 pounds!

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by nequo on Monday July 17, 2023 @11:01PM (#36767295)
Did you switch to water from regular soda or from diet soda?
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by FredPret on Monday July 17, 2023 @11:07PM (#36767329)
I never liked soda, but my beer and flavoured water consumption fell off a cliff
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by anigbrowl on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:35PM (#36765613)
I felt the same way until I took up regular exercise and my body's hydration preferences changed almost overnight. Now I guzzle the stuff like, well, you know.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by tptacek on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:36PM (#36765631)
It's probably better for your teeth, and, if you're drinking caffeinated soda in large volumes, that's not great. So: the sense in which it's better for health is pretty measurable.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by YetAnotherNick on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:45PM (#36765739)
Even if you replace water entirely with diet coke, the caffeine is not enough to cause harm.

> It's probably better for your teeth

So is not eating or sleeping or breathing.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by tptacek on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:51PM (#36765798)
This seems conspicuously like measurement, so I think we agree.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by themitigating on Monday July 17, 2023 @11:32PM (#36767490)
Most soda (not energy drinks) has very little caffeine. 12oz Diet coke has 42mg, black tea is 50mg, coffee varies but I see at least 100mg.

Of course people do seem to drink it mass quantities.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by jader201 on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:44PM (#36765724)
I’ve been using True flavor packs (2 per refrigerated gallon of water), alternating between lemon and lime. It’s just natural crystallized juice. Will likely never go back to just drinking unflavored water.

But yeah, I’ve been drinking water for years, and this has made it much more enjoyable. (I occasionally “splurge” and drink tea or soda, but it probably amounts to less than 1% of the fluids I consume.)

Citric acid isn’t great for teeth, but 2 packs per gallon should have a negligible impact (could possibly do more, but 2 is perfectly fine).

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by Loocid on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:59PM (#36765870)
>I know it’s arguably the best beverage to consume

Not arguably, it factually is.

I've also never understood the concept of being "bored" with water. Not everything in life has to be a sensual experience. Why not drink it because its good for you and save the flavoured beverages as treats?

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by lgas on Monday July 17, 2023 @09:06PM (#36766447)
The answer to your question was in the post you replied to

> It just doesn’t satisfy cravings.

Not to mention they said they do drink water - just of the sparkling variety, which does satisfy their cravings.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by stevehawk on Monday July 17, 2023 @09:24PM (#36766575)
> I've also never understood the concept of being "bored" with water.

some of us are really bad at doing things, even good/healthy things, unless we get a dopamine response. so 99% of my "water intake" is really coffee, tea, or artificially sweetened soda.

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by fomine3 on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:20PM (#36767013)
I drink a sparkling water or tea during my boring work. I want to make drinking a bit fun than a boring water.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by rpz on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:10PM (#36766929)
Squeeze a lemon or muddle some strawberries into it and you’re golden. Tea is nice too.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by moffkalast on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:27PM (#36763587)
Believe it or not, cancer.

https://www.aaas.org/epi-center/pfas

Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by barbazoo on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:42PM (#36763776)
Soda is made of water too
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by temp0826 on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:45PM (#36765734)
Water? Like out the toilet?
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by barbazoo on Monday July 17, 2023 @09:18PM (#36766547)
It's a circular economy
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by kcplate on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:18PM (#36763471)
Ugly bags of mostly water?
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by BrianHutch on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:27PM (#36763590)
Deep STTNG cut there.
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by sandworm101 on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:16PM (#36763451)
And diet soda, beer, milk, vodka and most every other beverage is technically also "mostly water".
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by robotburrito on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:29PM (#36765561)
How the heck do you expect me to do wicked 360 kick flips and other extreme sports activities without soda? Water just doesn't cut it :)
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by cj on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:47PM (#36765759)
Seltzer water + caffeine pill! /s
Re:WHO Aspartame Brouhaha by rjh29 on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:21PM (#36766095)
I only eat huel 3 meals a day. You should try it, it's awesome. Why enjoy food?